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Old 06-08-2009, 01:37 PM
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NY bred conditions...

Resident Mares: Must be continuously in residence in New York State from within 90 days after last cover in the year of conception, and thereafter remain in residence until FOALING the following year, with no breed-back required.

Non-Resident Mares: Must FOAL in New York State, be BRED BACK to a registered New York-based stallion, and remain for a continuous period of 90 days after foaling.
Whoa...Those are really strict and guided
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Old 06-08-2009, 02:02 PM
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Whoa...Those are really strict and guided
What...why should NY make that any easier for owners than it does everything else?..It's amazing that people actually want to own and race horses in NY the way they nickel and dime you to death.

EDIT...That's kind of harsh on my part...Let's just say that with all the special fees and deductions from purse accounts, the seperate set of silk rules that are different from every other state and the less than user friendly licensing offices, it wouldn't be my first choice to race unless I lived there.

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Old 06-20-2009, 07:14 PM
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What...why should NY make that any easier for owners than it does everything else?..It's amazing that people actually want to own and race horses in NY the way they nickel and dime you to death.

EDIT...That's kind of harsh on my part...Let's just say that with all the special fees and deductions from purse accounts, the seperate set of silk rules that are different from every other state and the less than user friendly licensing offices, it wouldn't be my first choice to race unless I lived there.

I bred Notorious Girl to Sunriver and Iam perplexed where to drop the foal. Pa. has a great program but NY stallion dropping in NY is very enticing.
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Old 06-20-2009, 09:58 PM
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I bred Notorious Girl to Sunriver and Iam perplexed where to drop the foal. Pa. has a great program but NY stallion dropping in NY is very enticing.
Freddy if you are going to breed to a NY stallion why would you think of dropping anywhere else? And please tell me you didn't pay the full boat...
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Old 06-20-2009, 10:20 PM
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Paid half advertised I think it was 6250. Pa breds sell for a ton of money at the 2 year old sales
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Old 06-21-2009, 05:04 AM
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Freddy if you are going to breed to a NY stallion why would you think of dropping anywhere else? And please tell me you didn't pay the full boat...

Needed a St Ballado(Sunriver) stallion. Werk nicks A+ with the mare. There aren't a lot of them. The concept was IF the Straight Man foal did well and IF the Sunriver's get off to a good start, we could do OK. Plus our mare (at least it was ours till she became mine) is really big and heavy boned I wanted to breed her to something a bit more balanced and not as huge. Confirmation wise Sunriver is pretty correct. Obviously he wasn't a "Steve" star but he was ok.

The Straight Man foal is really pretty straight and has a great hip on her. Would have sent her back to him but Florida was a schlep. Plus shipping the foal from Pa to Fl. at 21 days was too much travel.
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Old 06-21-2009, 08:29 AM
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Freddy, I agree with Chuck, its best to drop the foal of a NY stallion in NY. The 20% breeder award is a nice bonus whether you own the foal or not. I know you don't want to hear this but eventually there will be slots at Aqueduct and those purses and awards will be even better.
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Old 06-21-2009, 08:44 AM
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Freddy, I agree with Chuck, its best to drop the foal of a NY stallion in NY. The 20% breeder award is a nice bonus whether you own the foal or not. I know you don't want to hear this but eventually there will be slots at Aqueduct and those purses and awards will be even better.
Of course I want slots at Aqueduct.lol I am going to race in NY why wouldnt I want slots? Just Kidding!!! Actually the chances that there are slots at Aqueduct before 2014 are nil. The process is in disarray, the government is disarray, the track(slot area) is in disarray, the economy in the Tri state area sucks, and other then that everything is PREFECT.

Not sure if you realizze just how horrible the Pa. stock currently is. Winning BSF's at PID for 40k mdn spls are in the 40's or low 50's. Pa. breds that look fast sell for 25k at two year old in training sales. DrugS and I have won starting in a few weeks she should be odds on in such a race and in NY she may have to run for 20 MDN CLM.
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