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Old 05-30-2009, 06:08 PM
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You guys are putting way to much stock into a three year old restricted race against MTB and Musket Man.

Its a very nice win but I usually want to see how they do against older horses. How many three year olds have won the BC Classic or the Distaff? Its not many and some of those years the older horses were very thin.
it's may. i don't think too many are making rachel out to be the best ever, altho some are trying. thing is tho, it is just may, so a bit early these days to start putting a 3 yo vs older. rachel has done something most don't do anymore, which is a shame. perhaps that's why people are expressing frustration with zenyattas camp; we want her to branch out as well.
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Old 05-30-2009, 06:41 PM
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it's may. i don't think too many are making rachel out to be the best ever, altho some are trying. thing is tho, it is just may, so a bit early these days to start putting a 3 yo vs older. rachel has done something most don't do anymore, which is a shame. perhaps that's why people are expressing frustration with zenyattas camp; we want her to branch out as well.
many people, including some writers are doing just that.

I have learned to live with disappointment in this game, if it happens it happens. None of the boys in california can run with Zenyatta which is the most disappointing to me.
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Old 05-30-2009, 06:46 PM
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Rachel would probably get eaten up in either sexes' Classic ,
however if she faced Zenyatta now, with a bunch of allowance horses filling out the field, I think Rachel would run off with it.
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Old 05-30-2009, 07:23 PM
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I dont see the point of Zenyatta shipping elswhere when their prize is on the BC at SA. If RA is going to run in the BC Classic then wouldnt it be nice if she gets a synthetic prep. If not she will always have the "never ran on synthetic" excuse if she loses in the BC this year.
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Old 05-30-2009, 07:25 PM
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I dont see the point of Zenyatta shipping elswhere when their prize is on the BC at SA. If RA is going to run in the BC Classic then wouldnt it be nice if she gets a synthetic prep. If not she will always have the "never ran on synthetic" excuse if she loses in the BC this year.

she ran/won at kee last year.
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Old 05-30-2009, 07:31 PM
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she ran/won at kee last year.
Well there wont be an excuse if she loses then
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Old 05-30-2009, 07:32 PM
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Well there wont be an excuse if she loses then
you ought to know by now that there's ALWAYS an excuse. now...whether it's a good excuse, or a believable one is another story.
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Old 05-30-2009, 11:02 PM
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she ran/won at kee last year.
She won an N2L allowance at six furlongs, running the third slowest race of her career. And that was polytrack, not Pro-Ride. This means nothing regarding whether or not she'll be able to handle the Santa Anita surface.
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Old 05-30-2009, 08:49 PM
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many people, including some writers are doing just that.

I have learned to live with disappointment in this game, if it happens it happens. None of the boys in california can run with Zenyatta which is the most disappointing to me.
How can you make that statement without seeing her run against males? Not that I'm saying they can but...
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Old 05-30-2009, 08:55 PM
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The best way to see who is really better......make a last minute decision to move the BC to Churchill this year!!!!

which will never happen but....oh well

Zenyatta is probably better on synth...and RA is probably better on dirt. But RA is going in the Classic if she comes, so we'll never know either for sure
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Old 05-30-2009, 09:16 PM
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The best way to see who is really better......make a last minute decision to move the BC to Churchill this year!!!!

which will never happen but....oh well

Zenyatta is probably better on synth...and RA is probably better on dirt. But RA is going in the Classic if she comes, so we'll never know either for sure
Zenyatta ran her best race on dirt at Oaklawn
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Old 05-30-2009, 09:18 PM
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Zenyatta ran her best race on dirt at Oaklawn
One could argue Ginger Punch just threw in a clunker that day. Do you think Ginger Punch had her best in that race? I mean Brownie Points beat her....
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Old 05-30-2009, 10:49 PM
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One could argue Ginger Punch just threw in a clunker that day. Do you think Ginger Punch had her best in that race? I mean Brownie Points beat her....
Is that what your arguing?

Did she throw in a clunker later in the year as well?
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