Delaware should throw in extra $500k for RA & Zenyatta

[phystech]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Delaware Park is a quirky track?

How so exactly?

Delpark had the reputation of being uneven and could be very deep, especially on the backstretch. It's been about two years since I ran a horse up there but the last time I did, I sat at the bar with Corey Black and he made it clear that the back was very deep.

Delpark could spend their $$'s much more wisely than to offer an extra cash bonanza - they need to support their daily cards.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by phystech

I sat at the bar with Corey Black and he made it clear that the back was very deep.

When I think of wisdom the first thing I think of is a drunk Corey Black

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Cardus

Do you have any stats of Storm Boot sired-horses first-out on turf?

21-for-267

[letswastemoney]

Shirreffs is the most chicken trainer I've ever read about. He's afraid of a wet racetrack, facing males with a horse clearly capable of facing males, stretching out Zenyatta to 10 furlongs....

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Shirreffs is the most chicken trainer I've ever read about. He's afraid of a wet racetrack, facing males with a horse clearly capable of facing males, stretching out Zenyatta to 10 furlongs....

John Shirreffs is one of the best trainers and most clever operators in the game. He doesn't own the horse, and he and stable manager Dottie Ingordo are simply trying to put Zenyatta in the best possible scenarios. You don't know what they and the Mosses are facing with her currently, and if they are going to have to nurse her through this campaign for reasons they don't need to discus publicly...

And you absolutely NEVER bring a big, heavy horse like Zenyatta back from a layoff on a wet, hard racetrack unless you are anxious for trouble. Ask Frank Brothers about running First Samurai on a sea of Gulfstream slop in the Hutcheson in his first start at three. He got into that record-breaking gut-wrencher with Keyed Entry and NEITHER were ever the same after that.

As it happened, the track at Churchill Oaks Day would have been OK for Zenyatta by the time that Distaff ran, but Shirreffs took the prudent course.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by Cardus

Do you have any stats of Storm Boot sired-horses first-out on turf? I am a little out of pocket right now, and there is a Storm Boot turf firster running tomorrow at Belmont -- I think it is the last race and Weaver trains the horse -- and I have a recollection of seeing some Storm Boots running well first time on turf, particularly on the west coast.

That's a very interesting race - there are four at 10-1+ that look intriguing to me if the chalk is the hanger he appears to be. The Weaver piece, the Hennig, the 1/2 to Summer Patriot, and the Penna Venezuelan bred.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

That's a very interesting race - there are four at 10-1+ that look intriguing to me if the chalk is the hanger he appears to be. The Weaver piece, the Hennig, the 1/2 to Summer Patriot, and the Penna Venezuelan bred.

The Weaver horse (Boots Ahead) is VERY interesting in there at 15-1. I'm using.

[golfer]

Originally Posted by Kasept

The Weaver horse (Boots Ahead) is VERY interesting in there at 15-1. I'm using.

I think it's time for Chapin Beach to get back or close to that debut number.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by golfer

I think it's time for Chapin Beach to get back or close to that debut number.

Using him too..