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Old 05-27-2009, 05:02 PM
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Anybody who watched the game knows that wasnt a foul and if you are going to make that call, you have to make the call on the other end against verijao(sp) when BOTH FELL. LOL. Seriously, if you would like i can put you on intercom and explain the game as it happens. Beyond that, I have offered classes and you havent taken me up...yet

As far as defending the point guard, my point was made over the last two games. Rafer alston scores 18 and 26. If lebron is supposed to be defending, then he cant defend him. If he can defend him, then he simply is NOT defending him or else he wouldnt be scoring 26 points. Either way, im right and you are looking more and more foolish trying to hold on to this stupid position.
He guards the PG. The reasoning is clear but he does guard the PG. And there was no foul on the lob because Howard had hooked the hairy guys arm. Watch the play and stop listening to Doug Collins.

The last second play with James was and always will be a foul, especially in that situation. Not even debatable. If there is contact and the defensive player doesnt have position and impedes a path to the basket it will be a foul.
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Old 05-27-2009, 06:54 PM
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He guards the PG. The reasoning is clear but he does guard the PG. And there was no foul on the lob because Howard had hooked the hairy guys arm. Watch the play and stop listening to Doug Collins.

The last second play with James was and always will be a foul, especially in that situation. Not even debatable. If there is contact and the defensive player doesnt have position and impedes a path to the basket it will be a foul.
If he guards the pg, then he cant "guard" hiim because he scored 26 and rafer hasnt scored 26 since his name was still skiptomylou...and that was like 10 years ago. That doesnt seem to be getting through for some reason.

As far as the last second play, i dont think you watched it. here is the highlight about a minute in so you can see. Offensive player lowers shoulder to initiate contact and barely brushes defensive player...with .5 seconds left in defensive player's arena. Are you kidding me? Who else gets that call?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jBeG5S_NQQ
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Old 05-27-2009, 07:24 PM
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If he guards the pg, then he cant "guard" hiim because he scored 26 and rafer hasnt scored 26 since his name was still skiptomylou...and that was like 10 years ago. That doesnt seem to be getting through for some reason.

As far as the last second play, i dont think you watched it. here is the highlight about a minute in so you can see. Offensive player lowers shoulder to initiate contact and barely brushes defensive player...with .5 seconds left in defensive player's arena. Are you kidding me? Who else gets that call?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jBeG5S_NQQ
LeBron is matched up on defensive with the PG under the defensive scheme set up by the Cavs. Simple. You claimed he wasnt or couldnt or smething else. The success of that PG is immaterial since as you have pointed out so many times that he roams on defense.

I dont see LeBron ever "lower" his shoulder until he was falling down. When there is contact and the defensive player hasnt established position, it is a foul. It was an easy call.
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Old 05-27-2009, 07:33 PM
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LeBron is matched up on defensive with the PG under the defensive scheme set up by the Cavs. Simple. You claimed he wasnt or couldnt or smething else. The success of that PG is immaterial since as you have pointed out so many times that he roams on defense.

I dont see LeBron ever "lower" his shoulder until he was falling down. When there is contact and the defensive player hasnt established position, it is a foul. It was an easy call.
You are just being silly and stubborn now but i think its funny. Rafer scored 18 and 26 on successive nights. If lebron is lined up against the poiint, he cant cover the point so im right. If he is playing a one man zone, which you denied earlier in the thread, you were wrong again. Lebron can't guard point guards. Period. Even bad ones like Alston. Thats why as soon as he started scoring, they switched lebron off so someone could play honest defense. Rafer had 26 chuck. Rafer alston. Think about that.

If you dont see lebron lower his shoulder, then i have another link for you: www.lenscrafter.com
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Cannon Shell created not only the basketball...he also created the circle. Like he was the first ever to make a circle.
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Cannon Shell created not only the basketball...he also created the circle. Like he was the first ever to make a circle.
so guys like you could have a circle jerk
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so guys like you could have a circle jerk
So what you're saying is you were getting cummed on when the circle occured?


Riiiiight.
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Old 05-27-2009, 08:13 PM
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Cannon Shell created not only the basketball...he also created the circle. Like he was the first ever to make a circle.
not enough credit. He invented wood. Basketball would be on played concrete if not for cannon shell.
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Old 05-27-2009, 08:24 PM
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not enough credit. He invented wood. Basketball would be on played concrete if not for cannon shell.
The way you watch the game who could tell the difference. Your obvious jealousy at my obvious superior basketball intellect is unbecoming. Plus you know I would school you one on one.
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You are just being silly and stubborn now but i think its funny. Rafer scored 18 and 26 on successive nights. If lebron is lined up against the poiint, he cant cover the point so im right. If he is playing a one man zone, which you denied earlier in the thread, you were wrong again. Lebron can't guard point guards. Period. Even bad ones like Alston. Thats why as soon as he started scoring, they switched lebron off so someone could play honest defense. Rafer had 26 chuck. Rafer alston. Think about that.

If you dont see lebron lower his shoulder, then i have another link for you: www.lenscrafter.com
At what point does he lower his shoulder? When he is falling after making contact with the defensive player. It is a foul.
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Old 05-27-2009, 08:09 PM
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At what point does he lower his shoulder? When he is falling after making contact with the defensive player. It is a foul.
If it were a foul, how come the other refs arent making the call? Only the back ref blew the whistle. If it were such an obvious call, where were the other refs? I realize the back ref is supposed to follow the ball, but the ref underneath the basket doesnt blow the whistle and the call was made in the paint. I know that is a little advanced for you but try to understand.

He lowered his shoulder before he brushed him and fell because there wasnt any contact. Why else did he fall forward? LOL. The call is done and there is no use deliberating over it. The statement that the call is "obvious" is just dumb.
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Old 05-27-2009, 08:20 PM
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If it were a foul, how come the other refs arent making the call? Only the back ref blew the whistle. If it were such an obvious call, where were the other refs? I realize the back ref is supposed to follow the ball, but the ref underneath the basket doesnt blow the whistle and the call was made in the paint. I know that is a little advanced for you but try to understand.

He lowered his shoulder before he brushed him and fell because there wasnt any contact. Why else did he fall forward? LOL. The call is done and there is no use deliberating over it. The statement that the call is "obvious" is just dumb.
This is your new defense? The other refs didnt make the call? The ref that made the call was right there maybe 10 feet away. The other two refs are on the opposite side of the court. It was an obvious foul and the correct ref who made it. You cant trip up a guy driving to the basket and expect not to have a foul called. Stop the clip at 119 and you can clearly see Pietrus leg between James legs.
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