Douglas to have surgery following spill

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Left Bank

So all tracks should be like SoCal tracks,where if you even LOOK at another horse,you get taken down??? I remember a few years ago this was happening at the Hollywood summer meet.Seemed like there was an inquiry every race.Everyone complained. Sounds like it will be real good for handle.

i don't think that's true at all. besides, i was referring to the paulick article in which he says that when it's not a horse finishing in the money that's impeded, generally nothing is said. that if you have rough riding, whether there's an injury/inquiry or not, they should speak to the riders. i'm not arguing that sometimes bad calls are made, or not made...i'm agreeing with mr. paulick when he says that the thinking of 'no harm' doesn't necessarily equal 'no foul'.

i agree with others as far as theriot and other jockeys making that type of move many times without consequence. the problem is, this time it was made with awful results. perhaps, as paulick said, they shouldn't let this go repeatedly, just because it didn't affect a horse hitting the board-because if you push long enough, someone ends up injured.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't think that's true at all. besides, i was referring to the paulick article in which he says that when it's not a horse finishing in the money that's impeded, generally nothing is said. that if you have rough riding, whether there's an injury/inquiry or not, they should speak to the riders. i'm not arguing that sometimes bad calls are made, or not made...i'm agreeing with mr. paulick when he says that the thinking of 'no harm' doesn't necessarily equal 'no foul'.

i agree with others as far as theriot and other jockeys making that type of move many times without consequence. the problem is, this time it was made with awful results. perhaps, as paulick said, they shouldn't let this go repeatedly, just because it didn't affect a horse hitting the board-because if you push long enough, someone ends up injured.

The stewards do speak to the riders and do hand out punishment without an inquiry or objection being lodged. When the riders walk into the jocks room after a race if they have done something wrong or just rode with their head up their azz the clerck of scales will tell them they are on the films list for the next day. That means they review the race or races with the stewards , they ask the jockey for their thoughts after the film is shown and then the stewards tell them theirs. After films you leave the room while the stewards decide your fate , then they call you back in and let you have it or not. 9 times out of 10 the stews have already made up their mind before you leave the room .

[chucklestheclown]

Originally Posted by Honu

The stewards do speak to the riders and do hand out punishment without an inquiry or objection being lodged. When the riders walk into the jocks room after a race if they have done something wrong or just rode with their head up their azz the clerck of scales will tell them they are on the films list for the next day. That means they review the race or races with the stewards , they ask the jockey for their thoughts after the film is shown and then the stewards tell them theirs. After films you leave the room while the stewards decide your fate , then they call you back in and let you have it or not. 9 times out of 10 the stews have already made up their mind before you leave the room .

Not everyone saw that episode of "Jockeys".

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by chucklestheclown

Not everyone saw that episode of "Jockeys".

or any of them for that matter...

[chucklestheclown]

Good stuff. Sorta. Is there any new news on Mr. Douglas?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by chucklestheclown

Good stuff. Sorta. Is there any new news on Mr. Douglas?

i doubt they have anything for another week or so...not til swelling subsides, etc

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i doubt they have anything for another week or so...not til swelling subsides, etc

Unless he has a positive breakthrough and moves a lower extremity. The 10-14 day timeline is the period the edema would last. If the swelling ablates and he is still without feeling or movement it means that the blood flow to that nerve bundle or cord was too low for too long or both leading to permanent injury. This is the difference between ischemia and infarction....so if there was news earlier it would likely be positive.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by chucklestheclown

Not everyone saw that episode of "Jockeys".

I didnt either , what happen?

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Honu

I didnt either , what happen?

I believe he is refering to the episode/episodes where you saw some of the process that goes on between the jocks and the stewards. Basically if the stewards saw something that they didn't like, the jocks name would go up on a chalkboard in the jocks room. Then the jock in question had to meet with the stewards the next day.