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Old 05-25-2009, 12:39 AM
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Utah plays zero defense. I would not contend they play better defense than Atlanta.
detroit and atlanta are 11th and 12th in defensive efficiency respectively. Utah was 14th...houston was 7th.

edit* remember also that Utah's best interior defender was out for a good part of the year. At wing, brewer and kirilenko would be the matchup and both are good defenders.
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Old 05-25-2009, 12:42 AM
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Don't forget also...West broke his wrist and his offensive stats went down steadily upon his return working back into the rotation and offensive flow. This did happen.
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It's pretty much arguing about nothing. I don't really care. It's depressing enough regardless of whom is better between Ariza and West. I honestly don't give a rat's ass who is better. The Cavs are in massive trouble. They got the poor shooting effort from the Magic I felt they needed to steal one in Orlando...they didn't take advantage. It's depressing. This side argument is meaningless.
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This thread has taken a bad turn. Really, a Delonte West vs. Trevor Ariza debate? Really?
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This thread has taken a bad turn. Really, a Delonte West vs. Trevor Ariza debate? Really?
exactly. thats what i said a while ago. they are about the same player. no?
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Very much so. Just like about 100 other guys.
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Very much so. Just like about 100 other guys.
exactly.

Okay. better subject.

The cavs don't have a single player that can score in the post. I dont remember a team that would be considered a viable contender lacking such a traditionally important component to an offense.
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Don't forget also...West broke his wrist and his offensive stats went down steadily upon his return working back into the rotation and offensive flow. This did happen.
Okay, and Phil Jackson experimented with a million different rotations to begin the season and Ariza's role wasnt defined until the second half of the year.

Im not talking about all of that though. I am talking about what they are...now...in these playoffs.

West has been a decent offensive role player that has played good defense. Ariza has done basically the same thing.

How is this debatable? Im not saying Ariza is better. Im just saying in terms of "value" they are about the same player.
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