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Old 05-21-2009, 11:30 PM
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The Irish guy? I'm a greasy ginzo!
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Old 05-22-2009, 12:07 AM
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The Irish guy? I'm a greasy ginzo!

The Wire was awesome.....you see them all on TV series everywhere except Mc Nutty....poor Jimmy just went off into the distance with his homeless buddy and didn't even get a guest shot on "Damages" with the other cast members!!

Jimmy be laying at the bottom of the river out there somewhere....
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Old 05-22-2009, 09:18 AM
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The Irish guy? I'm a greasy ginzo!
I know but you have a lot of the same mannerisms.
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Old 05-22-2009, 10:02 AM
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In the Utah series
Brown was the first guard off the bench in the first four games. Vujacic was second. They switched for the last game. Farmar didn't even get into the last three games. Minutes played:

Series average
Brown-about 17
Vujacic-about 15
Farmar-under 2

In the Houston series
In the first game, Vujacic was the first guard off the bench. Played almost 14 minutes. Brown was second and played 12 1/2. Farmar played just under three. Game two, Farmar was first off the bench and played nearly 18. Game three when Fisher was suspended, Farmar started and went almost 33 minutes. Farmar was a starter in one game and first off the bench in five others.

Series average
Farmar-about 17
Brown-about 14
Vujacic-about 14

So far in the Denver series
Game one, Vujacic was first off the bench
V-13.07
F-9.22
B-6.09

Game two, Brown was first off the bench
B-16.46
F-6.14
V-5.35

What I'm getting at is that Phil has no clue what he's doing. He messes with guys so much that they don't know if they are coming or going. Sure, you want to say that it's good that he does it that way because it keeps all the guys on their toes and ready at all times because you don't know when you will get your number called. But that's not how it really works. You'd like it to since they are professionals but it doesn't. Guys like to know their roles. A guy like Farmar doesn't know from game to game if he's going to play 20 minutes or won't get off the bench. Brown barely gets in the game in the first one and gets almost 17 minutes the next. And you have to feel for Bynum. He doesn't know whether he's coming or going. From night to night, he doesn't know if he's going to start or come off the bench. Doesn't know if he'll get 20-25 minutes or 10-12. Doesn't know if he'll play in the second half of a game or not. The Lakers are as successful as they are because of Kobe Bryant. Plain and simple. Mariano Rivera (that's my name for Jackson) doesn't help things. He throws out weird combinations, doesn't have a regular rotation, doesn't do things to control the momentum of games. He just hopes that Kobe will bail him out night after night and make him look like a genius.
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Old 05-22-2009, 05:45 PM
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In the Utah series
Brown was the first guard off the bench in the first four games. Vujacic was second. They switched for the last game. Farmar didn't even get into the last three games. Minutes played:

Series average
Brown-about 17
Vujacic-about 15
Farmar-under 2

In the Houston series
In the first game, Vujacic was the first guard off the bench. Played almost 14 minutes. Brown was second and played 12 1/2. Farmar played just under three. Game two, Farmar was first off the bench and played nearly 18. Game three when Fisher was suspended, Farmar started and went almost 33 minutes. Farmar was a starter in one game and first off the bench in five others.

Series average
Farmar-about 17
Brown-about 14
Vujacic-about 14

So far in the Denver series
Game one, Vujacic was first off the bench
V-13.07
F-9.22
B-6.09

Game two, Brown was first off the bench
B-16.46
F-6.14
V-5.35

What I'm getting at is that Phil has no clue what he's doing. He messes with guys so much that they don't know if they are coming or going. Sure, you want to say that it's good that he does it that way because it keeps all the guys on their toes and ready at all times because you don't know when you will get your number called. But that's not how it really works. You'd like it to since they are professionals but it doesn't. Guys like to know their roles. A guy like Farmar doesn't know from game to game if he's going to play 20 minutes or won't get off the bench. Brown barely gets in the game in the first one and gets almost 17 minutes the next. And you have to feel for Bynum. He doesn't know whether he's coming or going. From night to night, he doesn't know if he's going to start or come off the bench. Doesn't know if he'll get 20-25 minutes or 10-12. Doesn't know if he'll play in the second half of a game or not. The Lakers are as successful as they are because of Kobe Bryant. Plain and simple. Mariano Rivera (that's my name for Jackson) doesn't help things. He throws out weird combinations, doesn't have a regular rotation, doesn't do things to control the momentum of games. He just hopes that Kobe will bail him out night after night and make him look like a genius.
Phil does not have a consistent performer at guard besides
Kobe. And he has no point. Kobe is playing 1,2, and 3. And getting
beat up by Mellow. The Lakers would not have a chance
in this series without Kobe and Gasol. These are the only consistent
performers they have. Bynum is cannot stay with this up tempo game
the Lakers are playing. Ariza is playing fairly well, but he is playing
more at Kobe's position.

Lucky for the Lakers the Nuggets still have the flat headed
Nene and Martin.
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Old 05-22-2009, 06:16 PM
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Phil does not have a consistent performer at guard besides
Kobe. And he has no point. Kobe is playing 1,2, and 3. And getting
beat up by Mellow. The Lakers would not have a chance
in this series without Kobe and Gasol. These are the only consistent
performers they have. Bynum is cannot stay with this up tempo game
the Lakers are playing. Ariza is playing fairly well, but he is playing
more at Kobe's position.


Lucky for the Lakers the Nuggets still have the flat headed
Nene and Martin.
That's been Mariano's problem though. I remember a couple of years ago in the playoffs against Phoenix and everyone could see the Lakers held a huge size advantage but instead of playing big and making the Suns adjust to them, Mariano keeps trying to match up with other teams. The Nuggets don't have the size to match up with Bynum, Gasol, and Odom all in there. The Lakers need to take advantage of them and make the Nuggets pay instead of making it easy for them by going small and easier for the Nuggets to defend them. And part of what I'm saying is that they don't have any consistency from the other guards because nobody knows what the hell their role is. It's natural that when one of them is in there, they are trying to play a little bit selfishly and produce because they want to play the next game. It's hard to play when you are constantly worried about making a mistake because you know that mistake could mean you go from 20 minutes to three in the next or in Farmar's case, to a DNP-CD. I also didn't understand why, if you are going to go small and play Gasol at the center and Odom at the power forward, why was Walton ever in there for Ariza? Ariza had it going and there was no reason Walton should have ever checked in for him. Same as when Farmar had it going. Mariano pulled him too.
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Old 05-22-2009, 09:18 PM
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That's been Mariano's problem though. I remember a couple of years ago in the playoffs against Phoenix and everyone could see the Lakers held a huge size advantage but instead of playing big and making the Suns adjust to them, Mariano keeps trying to match up with other teams. The Nuggets don't have the size to match up with Bynum, Gasol, and Odom all in there. The Lakers need to take advantage of them and make the Nuggets pay instead of making it easy for them by going small and easier for the Nuggets to defend them. And part of what I'm saying is that they don't have any consistency from the other guards because nobody knows what the hell their role is. It's natural that when one of them is in there, they are trying to play a little bit selfishly and produce because they want to play the next game. It's hard to play when you are constantly worried about making a mistake because you know that mistake could mean you go from 20 minutes to three in the next or in Farmar's case, to a DNP-CD. I also didn't understand why, if you are going to go small and play Gasol at the center and Odom at the power forward, why was Walton ever in there for Ariza? Ariza had it going and there was no reason Walton should have ever checked in for him. Same as when Farmar had it going. Mariano pulled him too.
Its fun having so many NBA coaches on one
website...

Anyways.

I think Phil's problem is that Fischer is so bad. But...
he is the only guard besides Kobe that can
consisently handle the ball (except Fischer aint
going anywhere with it). Farmar has been given
plenty of chances in the regular season. I seriously
dont think Kobe trusts him. It has got to be very
hard to play with Kobe,
dont put it all on Phil (as much as I dislike him).

The Lakers might be able to go big with all 3 but
as I said last year, this really puts a strain on their
D. They become really slow, especially with Fisher at
point. Somebody had stated how great they would be
with these 3 at the same time and I just dont think they
have any perimeter D. Denver would/should just move Anthony
and Billups off high screens and spread the floor out.
You got open 3's and lanes when you make those
bigger guys help up top on screens.

Anthony has been a huge problem because not only is he
hitting his shot, he is getting very easy put backs and this is
the important part, easy put backs WHILE beating Kobe up.

Personally I like teams that wear down other teams by
making them play defense. Carmello is putting a whole bunch
of strain on the Lakers inside. He is forcing multiple people to
cover him on the drive, and then pushing Ariza and Kobe
all over the lane off the ball on offensive rebounds. He is making
Kobe play very hard.
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Old 05-22-2009, 09:25 PM
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I guess I"m only 2 points away from 10 bucks eh?? It's Cleveland dala...don't you know anything?? I honestly do wish they would only play 2 quarters.
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