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Old 05-19-2009, 08:34 PM
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I didnt say he could and to borrow your line i would love for you to show me where i did say that. I dont think anyone can guard five positions.
Ok, true. You didn't say he could. You said if you had to name one guy that would be the best at guarding all five, it would be Garnett. You honestly feel that Garnett would be able to come closer to guarding a point guard than James could to guarding a center? Hell, James is stronger than most centers in the league. Garnett couldn't guard any point guards.
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Old 05-19-2009, 10:17 PM
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Ok, true. You didn't say he could. You said if you had to name one guy that would be the best at guarding all five, it would be Garnett. You honestly feel that Garnett would be able to come closer to guarding a point guard than James could to guarding a center? Hell, James is stronger than most centers in the league. Garnett couldn't guard any point guards.
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Old 05-19-2009, 11:46 PM
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Ok, true. You didn't say he could. You said if you had to name one guy that would be the best at guarding all five, it would be Garnett. You honestly feel that Garnett would be able to come closer to guarding a point guard than James could to guarding a center? Hell, James is stronger than most centers in the league. Garnett couldn't guard any point guards.
You honestly think James can cover an NBA point guard? A legit NBA point guard?
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Old 05-19-2009, 11:56 PM
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Terrible job by the Nuggets. Plenty of chances to finish the Lakers off and never put the dagger in.
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Old 05-20-2009, 12:12 AM
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Terrible job by the Nuggets. Plenty of chances to finish the Lakers off and never put the dagger in.
Composure.
Nene goes off on the bench.
They scream at each other during Time outs
about the refs.

Billups is a godsend for this group.
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Old 05-20-2009, 12:21 AM
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Composure.
Nene goes off on the bench.
They scream at each other during Time outs
about the refs.

Billups is a godsend for this group.
Yeah, until those two three-pointers though, he wasn't worth a lot in this game. He also should've come to the ball on that inbound. Though I don't know why the hell Carter was inbounding to begin with.
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Old 05-20-2009, 12:28 AM
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Yeah, until those two three-pointers though, he wasn't worth a lot in this game. He also should've come to the ball on that inbound. Though I don't know why the hell Carter was inbounding to begin with.
Ariza did make a good play.
Bolded yeps.
Billups got lazy and did not help
make that an easy pass.

bounce pass low with Billups bodyup
against Ariza would have made it simple.

Denver has the talent but they look infantile.
I did get some pleasure watching Carmelo
beat the hell out of Kobe.
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Yeah, until those two three-pointers though, he wasn't worth a lot in this game. He also should've come to the ball on that inbound. Though I don't know why the hell Carter was inbounding to begin with.
Couldn't believe that. So many missed opportunities to steal one in LA. That stretch where they were up 7 with about 6 minutes to go and JR Smith just kept gunning up threes was killing me. Had they worked it to 11 there instead of Smith's obsession with making it a 10 point game that backfired, the Lakers don't get back in the game. I HATE the foul up three at the end of games, makes for such an anticlimactic finish.
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You honestly think James can cover an NBA point guard? A legit NBA point guard?
I'd rather take my chances with James on a point guard than Garnett. If you think Garnett could do a better job on an NBA point guard than James can.......I don't mean to be harsh but you really should refrain from joining any of the basketball discussions.
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Denver lost because of their inability to hit free-throws. That's it.
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Denver lost because of their inability to hit free-throws. That's it.
17 offensive rebounds by the Lakers leading to 16 more shots didn't help.
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Old 05-20-2009, 02:32 AM
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17 offensive rebounds by the Lakers leading to 16 more shots didn't help.
It didn't but even in the one game the Nuggets beat the Lakers this year, the Lakers beat them on the offensive boards 22-11. In the third game it was 18-10 (they were only one apart in the first game). So the Lakers typically outrebound them and because of their size, dominate the offensive glass. But you can't give away free points. Denver went 23-35 from the line, 12-21 in the first half. That's unacceptable at this point in the season. Giving away 12 points in a game you realistically lost by only 1-2 points is disappointing.
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It didn't but even in the one game the Nuggets beat the Lakers this year, the Lakers beat them on the offensive boards 22-11. In the third game it was 18-10 (they were only one apart in the first game). So the Lakers typically outrebound them and because of their size, dominate the offensive glass. But you can't give away free points. Denver went 23-35 from the line, 12-21 in the first half. That's unacceptable at this point in the season. Giving away 12 points in a game you realistically lost by only 1-2 points is disappointing.
Thats the reason Billups gave. No doubt a contributing factor but I disagree it was "pure and simple". 12-21 in the first half means they shot 11-14 in the second half including an intentional miss so they actually went 11-13 when it counted. That is pretty darn good on the road in the playoffs and it was just as good as the lakers shot down the stretch.

To me that game was lost on tempo pure and simple. The lakers are 8 and 0 when scoring over 100 points and 1 and 4 when they scored below 100. Its not too hard to do the math. If you play an uptempo game against the lakers they will beat you.
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Old 05-20-2009, 08:51 AM
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I'd rather take my chances with James on a point guard than Garnett. If you think Garnett could do a better job on an NBA point guard than James can.......I don't mean to be harsh but you really should refrain from joining any of the basketball discussions.
And you are the arbiter of who should join basketball discussions? LOL. I didnt say Garnett could do a better job on an NBA point...I said he would have a better chance guarding 5 positions. Is there a comprehension problem here? Garnett can guard an NBA center...well! Lebron isnt covering a center or a guard well.

Suddenly, Lebron is a lockdown defender of 5 positions...and i shouldnt be discussing basketball.
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Old 05-20-2009, 10:43 AM
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And you are the arbiter of who should join basketball discussions? LOL. I didnt say Garnett could do a better job on an NBA point...I said he would have a better chance guarding 5 positions. Is there a comprehension problem here? Garnett can guard an NBA center...well! Lebron isnt covering a center or a guard well.

Suddenly, Lebron is a lockdown defender of 5 positions...and i shouldnt be discussing basketball.
My God. It took me a while but I finally see what everyone else has seen for a long time. I give up.

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So it's like a 80/60 thing?

From what I can surmise KG can guard the 2-3-4-5 while LeBron can ONLY guard the 2-3-4.

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So it's like a 80/60 thing?

From what I can surmise KG can guard the 2-3-4-5 while LeBron can ONLY guard the 2-3-4.

NT
My only contention was that lebron can't guard five positions and anyone that knows anything about basketball knows this. Someone else said Lebron could come closest to doing it and my quote was that I think Garnett could come closest but Lebron would be in the same sentence of who would come closest. For some reason, this seems unreasonable to some.
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My God. It took me a while but I finally see what everyone else has seen for a long time. I give up.

Thank God for mirrors and acne meds.
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Old 05-19-2009, 11:57 PM
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I thought it was pretty fitting Ariza came up with that steal late in the game. I have no dog in this fight, but he's better than was made out earlier in the thread. He's a very good defender.
I thought you were a Laker fan?
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