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Old 05-19-2009, 04:32 PM
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Bad trainers typically ride bad jocks, it seems. Of course, trainer stat handicappers would disagree.

Surely you understand why this is true.....right?

" Bad " trainers, as you call them, don't win that often, and usually don't have particularly good horses, so thus have less access to the better riders. They would like to ride top riders.....but those riders don't want to ride their horses in many cases.

But you knew that.
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Old 05-19-2009, 04:40 PM
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Surely you understand why this is true.....right?

" Bad " trainers, as you call them, don't win that often, and usually don't have particularly good horses, so thus have less access to the better riders. They would like to ride top riders.....but those riders don't want to ride their horses in many cases.

But you knew that.
I look at Ed's Princess this weekend. She's 29:1 to 1 and if someone with a clue was on her, she wins the race. Or, at the very least, is 2nd (which was still good for me.). Now the owner/trainer must've had a clue that she was ready to run. (I hope so, anyway.) It's hard to believe that Casey was the best he could do. Here's someone with less than a handful of winners (and that's a good 1/2 year for him) and he just threw away a sizeable purse. I wonder, seriously, if he realizes this.

I'm watching the race and it's obvious that Casey is loose reigning the horse on the backstretch and turn. I'm thinking, wtf?, you loose rein on the lead, not when you're behind/between horses, as you have no control then. But, incredibly, she loose reins the horse in the lane, as well. The other jocks have tight holds and they're whipping and driving, and she's barely able to control the horse. Why is she riding?

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Old 05-19-2009, 04:50 PM
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I am not going to discuss any particular rider's skills right now, but I think you really don't understand why a lot of riders do, or don't, ride certain horses for certain connections. I understand, I used to not get it either, and then I started asking the same questions, but to people who could answer them.

In all seriousness, you should be a jock's agent. You might need to change your personality.....but you could certainly identify live mounts that most couldn't.
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