Best 3 yr old in the country

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

This is a very interesting case with this horse. He WASN't 'fast enough' to even be considered in the discussion a few weeks ago. Then, as luck would have it, he gets cut off out of the gate and the jock decides to ride him off the pace. And, all of a sudden, he BECOMES 'fast enough'. I'm thinking, whether he's top 3 year old (excluding RA) or not depends on whether or not he remains 'fast enough'.

Get my drift?

So, in other words, you think based on his accomplishments prior to May 2nd, he should have been considered in " this discussion " back in April? That's interesting and I would love you to explain this ( or even direct me to your posts about this from a few weeks, or more, ago ). And, let me offer a belated congratulations on the score you made in the KY Derby and further compliment you on your modesty, until now, about this life altering event.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

So, in other words, you think based on his accomplishments prior to May 2nd, he should have been considered in " this discussion " back in April? That's interesting and I would love you to explain this ( or even direct me to your posts about this from a few weeks, or more, ago ). And, let me offer a belated congratulations on the score you made in the KY Derby and further compliment you on your modesty, until now, about this life altering event.

Gee

All this attention from you.

All I'm saying is this 'FAST ENOUGH' **** is just that: BULLSHIT

You, of all people, know that it's all, pretty much, about SETUPS.

Horses improve or take step backwards based on the way the race shapes up.

As for the other ****: I didn't bet the Derby. I'm only on record as thinking that Friesan Fire was a piece a ****.

Life is good when you don't have to justify some FIGURE. And even better when your opinion is not FIGUREcentric.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Gee

All this attention from you.

All I'm saying is this 'FAST ENOUGH' **** is just that: BULLSHIT

You, of all people, know that it's all, pretty much, about SETUPS.

Horses improve or take step backwards based on the way the race shapes up.

As for the other ****: I didn't bet the Derby. I'm only on record as thinking that Friesan Fire was a piece a ****.

Life is good when you don't have to justify some FIGURE. And even better when your opinion is not FIGUREcentric.

I don't understand why someone who understands the game as well as you do needs to constantly twist people's use of figures, and the viability of good speed figures, to somehow justify your points. The idea of understanding race flow, and how it affects outcomes, is interesting and important enough on its own to not need to be supplemented with a misguided constant attack on speed figures.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Gee

All this attention from you.

All I'm saying is this 'FAST ENOUGH' **** is just that: BULLSHIT

You, of all people, know that it's all, pretty much, about SETUPS.

Horses improve or take step backwards based on the way the race shapes up.

As for the other ****: I didn't bet the Derby. I'm only on record as thinking that Friesan Fire was a piece a ****.

Life is good when you don't have to justify some FIGURE. And even better when your opinion is not FIGUREcentric.

You are ahead of me... It only took me 2 TC races to figure out FF is a one track wonder. As far as Mine That Bird, If he wins the Belmont is most certainly should be 3 year old of the year.. He would be 1 length away from the Triple Crown. I go on record stating that his running style is absolutely not a fit in the Belmont.. You need to be on or near the lead and RA fits that perfectly.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by jms62

You are ahead of me... It only took me 2 TC races to figure out FF is a one track wonder. As far as Mine That Bird, If he wins the Belmont is most certainly should be 3 year old of the year.. He would be 1 length away from the Triple Crown. I go on record stating that his running style is absolutely not a fit in the Belmont.. You need to be on or near the lead and RA fits that perfectly.

Of course you do not.

[King Glorious]

I think everyone is being premature here. We need to see how those monsters that were beating him down in NM finish out the year. I mean, if Kelly Leak can beat him again, wouldn't that make him a legit contender? Mythical Power came back to dominate the Lone Star Derby. What if he beats MTB again in the Haskell and/or Travers? Wouldn't he have a case too? Let's see how things play out.