NBA Playoffs

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Your contentions are fairly ludicrous. But keep digging. Maybe next you'll tell me that Lebron couldnt guard Jerry West or Bob Cousy or George Mikan or Danny Ainge or Connie Hawkins or Herman the helicopter or Trevor Ariza or Wes Unseld or Elvin hayes because he is 6"8 and 250 and is either too slow or too weak or too tall or too short to mess with them.

I know i have someone on the ropes when they start talking about "digging" and then they start bringing up players from other eras to support their futile arguments.

We are talking about here and now. In case someone hasnt come down to the barn and told you, ainge doesnt play anymore and neither does west, cousy or mikan. They are all players from another era and it is debatable as to whether or not they would have had the same success in this era. We are talking about HERE AND NOW. And here and now, Lebron James is not mobile enough laterally to stay with a quick NBA two guard and certainly not an average NBA point. He can't cover five positions and your attempt to try to stay with this ridiculous contention shows either a lack of knowledge of the game or a silly stubborness.

Me thinks it is more the latter.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I know i have someone on the ropes when they start talking about "digging" and then they start bringing up players from other eras to support their futile arguments.

We are talking about here and now. In case someone hasnt come down to the barn and told you, ainge doesnt play anymore and neither does west, cousy or mikan. They are all players from another era and it is debatable as to whether or not they would have had the same success in this era. We are talking about HERE AND NOW. And here and now, Lebron James is not mobile enough laterally to stay with a quick NBA two guard and certainly not an average NBA point. He can't cover five positions and your attempt to try to stay with this ridiculous contention shows either a lack of knowledge of the game or a silly stubborness.

Me thinks it is more the latter.

It really depends on what points and two's we refer to. He obviously would have a difficult time with Chris Paul or Tony Parker. Really fast PG that can shoot. But he could easily cover Rajon "no shot" Rhondo (sp?). He would obviously get much more tired covering either a guard or centers for reasons that involve legs.

But if you had to name one guy who would be the best
at covering all 5 positions, it would have to be Lebron.

To change the subject a bit.

I think it would be very interesting to see the younger
Dennis Rodman who played very good defense (not the older
version that just waited for rebounds) cover Lebron. Rodman
crazy, and stringy-quick-strong, playing against a guy that
might eventually try to kill him. Rodman also excelled at drawing
charges. This matchup would be classic.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by pgardn

It really depends on what points and two's we refer to. He obviously would have a difficult time with Chris Paul or Tony Parker. Really fast PG that can shoot. But he could easily cover Rajon "no shot" Rhondo (sp?). He would obviously get much more tired covering either a guard or centers for reasons that involve legs.

But if you had to name one guy who would be the best
at covering all 5 positions, it would have to be Lebron.

To change the subject a bit.

I think it would be very interesting to see the younger
Dennis Rodman who played very good defense (not the older
version that just waited for rebounds) cover Lebron. Rodman
crazy, and stringy-quick-strong, playing against a guy that
might eventually try to kill him. Rodman also excelled at drawing
charges. This matchup would be classic.

No...it would be Garnett but you would have to say Lebron is in the conversation. Rodman is the only player that I have seen literally cover all five positions and he was an extraordinary once in a lifetime defender. Did he have to flop against the big boys? Yes. But was he just something to behold? Rodman would have locked him down like he did Bird and to a lesser degree Magic and Worthy although Locking Lebron down simply means holding him to 29 points.

As far as Lebron covering Rondo there is no way. Rondo is too quick and gets to the basket too well. Could he cover kidd? Sure...but who cant these days? But a guy like Brooks who was killing the lakers but yet is very mediocre? No way. He simply isnt that good of a "lock down defender"...yet. Let me add that at 250 (or 280 as chuck claims) there is no way he should be able to guard small players like that. Kobe could but he was 40 lbs lighter and much more mobile laterally. Remember, kobe could lock down on the other teams best scorer whether it be 1,2, or 3. He could guard Iverson in AI's prime and Wade in Wade's prime. Lebron will never be able to do that.

[King Glorious]

This stuff is pure comedy. LeBron can't guard all five positions but Garnett can? This is better than anything on tv. Keep it coming guys.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

This stuff is pure comedy. LeBron can't guard all five positions but Garnett can? This is better than anything on tv. Keep it coming guys.

I didnt say he could and to borrow your line i would love for you to show me where i did say that. I dont think anyone can guard five positions.

[Cannon Shell]

ok you got me. i was wrong. i will admit Jerry West knows basketball better than I do. He says lebron could only play 4 positions...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4178437

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

ok you got me. i was wrong. i will admit Jerry West knows basketball better than I do. He says lebron could only play 4 positions...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4178437

LOL. No one debated whether or not he could play four positions. The question was whether he could legitimately DEFEND five positions. Of course he can play 1,2,3 or 4...and?

Just give it up. First you bring up Euro swingmen and then you try to misquote jerry west when it is obvious in that article he wasnt talking about defense. Geeez, is it that big of a deal to be wrong about something?

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I didnt say he could and to borrow your line i would love for you to show me where i did say that. I dont think anyone can guard five positions.

Ok, true. You didn't say he could. You said if you had to name one guy that would be the best at guarding all five, it would be Garnett. You honestly feel that Garnett would be able to come closer to guarding a point guard than James could to guarding a center? Hell, James is stronger than most centers in the league. Garnett couldn't guard any point guards.

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Ok, true. You didn't say he could. You said if you had to name one guy that would be the best at guarding all five, it would be Garnett. You honestly feel that Garnett would be able to come closer to guarding a point guard than James could to guarding a center? Hell, James is stronger than most centers in the league. Garnett couldn't guard any point guards.

Agreed.

ANd overall
this is a classic
practice in futility.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Ok, true. You didn't say he could. You said if you had to name one guy that would be the best at guarding all five, it would be Garnett. You honestly feel that Garnett would be able to come closer to guarding a point guard than James could to guarding a center? Hell, James is stronger than most centers in the league. Garnett couldn't guard any point guards.

You honestly think James can cover an NBA point guard? A legit NBA point guard?