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Old 05-18-2009, 12:26 PM
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poor horse!! He runs so well and nobody wants to stay on him!
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Old 05-18-2009, 12:29 PM
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Unless Gomez is getting the mount back on Dunkirk, the Belmont winner, I bet he is trying hard to ride Mine That Bird......as are about ten riders.
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Old 05-18-2009, 12:45 PM
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Honestly MTB hasn't had who I would regard as a top rider on him yet, Chantal, Lambert, Borel, Smith. If Wooley makes the right choice the horse is bound to get a jockey upgrade in the Belmont.
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Old 05-18-2009, 12:59 PM
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Honestly MTB hasn't had who I would regard as a top rider on him yet, Chantal, Lambert, Borel, Smith. If Wooley makes the right choice the horse is bound to get a jockey upgrade in the Belmont.
He won the Kentucky Derby and ran 2nd in the Preakness to a supieror horse. I really don't know what you are expecting from a jockey upgrade.
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Old 05-18-2009, 01:17 PM
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He won the Kentucky Derby and ran 2nd in the Preakness to a supieror horse. I really don't know what you are expecting from a jockey upgrade.
They were good rides, it would be less than credible to even infer they weren't, however in the long run the chances of good rides with these 2 diminishes IMO.
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Old 05-18-2009, 01:20 PM
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If Rachel goes I'd like to see either Dominguez or Gomez on Mine That Bird.

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Old 05-18-2009, 01:25 PM
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If Rachel goes I'd like to see either Dominguez or Gomez on Mine That Bird.

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Dominguez for sure; GG would 'over power' him.
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Old 05-18-2009, 01:25 PM
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If Rachel goes I'd like to see either Dominguez or Gomez on Mine That Bird.

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If they were smart like they were in the derby they would put up a local jock that knows the track and when to put the trigger. Why doesnt Rajiv get much press around here I think he would be a nice fit for the horse
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Old 05-18-2009, 02:56 PM
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I'd like to see Casey Lambert back on him...Since BTW thinks it doesn't matter.
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Old 05-18-2009, 01:27 PM
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They were good rides, it would be less than credible to even infer they weren't, however in the long run the chances of good rides diminishes IMO.
You make it sound like guys like Gomez, Dominguez, Prado (whoever you are considering top tier jockeys) are incapable of giving a bum ride. Whoever gets him next probably won't have to worry about navigating around 12 or 18 other horses, the way Borel and Smith did. But reguardless, he seems to be a nice horse (I'll admit I was wrong and thought that he would be off the board at Pimlico) and reguardless who is on him I think he has a good shot in NY if he runs.
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You make it sound like guys like Gomez, Dominguez, Prado (whoever you are considering top tier jockeys) are incapable of giving a bum ride. Whoever gets him next probably won't have to worry about navigating around 12 or 18 other horses, the way Borel and Smith did. But reguardless, he seems to be a nice horse (I'll admit I was wrong and thought that he would be off the board at Pimlico) and reguardless who is on him I think he has a good shot in NY if he runs.
Riding at Belmont is alot different than riding at other tracks, being that it is a 1 1/2 oval. Regardless of what I believe, given that N.Y boasts a very deep Jockey colony I have no trouble asserting that Mine That Bird will not be hurt by Smith's departure. I see the obvious names have been mentioned already but you could name any of the top current 9 in the standings and you would probably gain something on the Jockey change. Borel is good at CD, but did anyone watch him at Oaklawn? Personally I would love to see Lezcano get the chance on the big stage, his style would suit MTB's preferred running style.
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Old 05-19-2009, 10:45 AM
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He won the Kentucky Derby and ran 2nd in the Preakness to a supieror horse. I really don't know what you are expecting from a jockey upgrade.
i don't know about that. i thought his trip in the preakness was a little shaky. they can get someone better than mike smith. that horse ran huge to get second from where he came from on the pimlico track.
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Mike Smith is no saint, they know what they are doing, why possibly ruin any future rides with Moss/Shireffs. Especially with Zenyatta and his regulars in socal.
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Old 05-18-2009, 04:21 PM
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Honestly MTB hasn't had who I would regard as a top rider on him yet, Chantal, Lambert, Borel, Smith. If Wooley makes the right choice the horse is bound to get a jockey upgrade in the Belmont.
after looking back and listening to bailey and stevens, ther wasnt another jockey that would have found the inside move that Borel made in the derby. Noone would have scraped the paint like Calvin. It gets old all this stuff about luck. He does this consistsntly, so it must be more than luck.
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Old 05-18-2009, 12:49 PM
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Unless Gomez is getting the mount back on Dunkirk, the Belmont winner, I bet he is trying hard to ride Mine That Bird......as are about ten riders.
He really did run a huge race in the Preakness, completely shocking but nice to see that maybe he isn't the worst Derby winner evah...
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Unless Gomez is getting the mount back on Dunkirk, the Belmont winner, I bet he is trying hard to ride Mine That Bird......as are about ten riders.

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Old 05-18-2009, 05:29 PM
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they ought to call edgar.
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Yeah, it's very un BTW like to say something like that so far in advance of race day.
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You need a rider that can reach into his bag of tricks! Kent Desormeaux.
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:39 PM
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You need a rider that can reach into his bag of tricks! Kent Desormeaux.
ugh

sometimes his bag of tricks makes you wonder what he's smoking.
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