Dick Cheney

[hi_im_god]

i'm wondering why they haven't dug up the corpse of richard nixon and paraded that around.

wouldn't he be more popular?

i'd feel sorry for those republicans trying to turn a page, put the past behind and get the party headed the right direction if it wasn't so delightful watching dick drag them back into the pit every chance he gets.

he's given more interviews since the inauguration than he did the last 2 years he was in office. he's so f'in awesome.

apparently his new "undisclosed location" is the fox green room. i hope he never leaves.

[Honu]

He is just following the lead of the new president , Obama is the one that wanted to say we tortured people, his party is the one that says we should do something to the people who knew it was happening. Now all of a sudden the president decides that maybe it isnt such a good idea to drag all this stuff out , that in fact it might be better to have military tribunals for the terrorists we have in custody , Im just wondering how he came upon such an epiphany.
I often wonder how many Nazi's were shot on site when the camps were liberated , or how many Japanese had the same happen to them? , and where are the pictures of that, shouldnt we prosecute the people who did that ?
Shouldnt we find the people who smacked the **** out of "gooks" so we could get information from them during Vietnam and Korea ?

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Honu

He is just following the lead of the new president , Obama is the one that wanted to say we tortured people, his party is the one that says we should do something to the people who knew it was happening. Now all of a sudden the president decides that maybe it isnt such a good idea to drag all this stuff out , that in fact it might be better to have military tribunals for the terrorists we have in custody , Im just wondering how he came upon such an epiphany.
I often wonder how many Nazi's were shot on site when the camps were liberated , or how many Japanese had the same happen to them? , and where are the pictures of that, shouldnt we prosecute the people who did that ?
Shouldnt we find the people who smacked the **** out of "gooks" so we could get information from them during Vietnam and Korea ?

i'm not arguing.

nothing makes me happier than to have dick in the lead on this.

he's absolutely the spokesperson i'd choose for republicans if, in some fevered dream, i thought it was possible i'd get to choose.

and we get to keep the focus on the prior admin's policies?

it's like winning the lottery.

Originally Posted by Honu

He is just following the lead of the new president , Obama is the one that wanted to say we tortured people, his party is the one that says we should do something to the people who knew it was happening. Now all of a sudden the president decides that maybe it isnt such a good idea to drag all this stuff out , that in fact it might be better to have military tribunals for the terrorists we have in custody , Im just wondering how he came upon such an epiphany.
I often wonder how many Nazi's were shot on site when the camps were liberated , or how many Japanese had the same happen to them? , and where are the pictures of that, shouldnt we prosecute the people who did that ?
Shouldnt we find the people who smacked the **** out of "gooks" so we could get information from them during Vietnam and Korea ?

There were no Nazi's in Germany after the country
was overrun. They all... switched parties. That is
part of the reason for the Nuremberg Trials. People
usually dont just come out and openly admit they are terrorists
or particpated in genocide. Everyone, including Obama, knew this
was going to be tough to determine who did what.

[ArlJim78]

big mistake by Obama /Pelosi to keep on this subject of Gitmo, torture etc. It has blown up in their faces. Obama looks like an inexperienced rube taking every position in the book, and finally ending up where Bush was, and Pelosi has been exposed as a fraud while both of them have made enemies at the CIA. All because they cannot resist going after Bush Cheney even though they have nothing to gain from it.

Republicans didn't send Cheney out there, Obama forced his hand.

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Republicans didn't send Cheney out there, Obama forced his hand.

Then he is not very loyal to his party.
Makes Republicans look old, tired and bitter.
And stupid...

Cheney asking for sensitive information to
be released to the public...
Unbelievable gall.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Then he is not very loyal to his party.
Makes Republicans look old, tired and bitter.
And stupid...

Cheney asking for sensitive information to
be released to the public...
Unbelievable gall.

Pot-Kettle-Black

When Dems flip flop it's the second armageddon..when righties do it it's "good policy"...unreal hypocricy again..

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Then he is not very loyal to his party.
Makes Republicans look old, tired and bitter.
And stupid...

Cheney asking for sensitive information to
be released to the public...
Unbelievable gall.

haha, not hardly, Cheney standing up for the policies has made Obama look petty, after all, he is recklessly persuing political gains while sacrificing national security.

it wasn't Cheneys choice to have the tortures memos released. after they dumped on our intelligence community by selectively releasing sensitive material that they thought would play well in the media and put Bush/Cheney in a bad light, Cheney requested that they at least be honest and release the documents that showed what intel was gained by using those measures. at this point the only damage that would be done by that is to Obama.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

big mistake by Obama /Pelosi to keep on this subject of Gitmo, torture etc. It has blown up in their faces. Obama looks like an inexperienced rube taking every position in the book, and finally ending up where Bush was, and Pelosi has been exposed as a fraud while both of them have made enemies at the CIA. All because they cannot resist going after Bush Cheney even though they have nothing to gain from it.

Republicans didn't send Cheney out there, Obama forced his hand.

obama/pelosi. did we give up on obama/blago?

the litmus test for dems has to be that so long as republicans are focused on linking him to the somewhat less popular flavor of the moment, things are going pretty well. particularly with dick cheney insisting on being the public face of the opposition.

and i love the evolution of republican arguement.

1) we don't torture.

2) okay. we do torture but it works.

3) so, we're not sure it works but nancy knew.

thats a path back to power if i ever saw one.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

obama/pelosi. did we give up on obama/blago?

the litmus test for dems has to be that so long as republicans are focused on linking him to the somewhat less popular flavor of the moment, things are going pretty well. particularly with dick cheney insisting on being the public face of the opposition.

and i love the evolution of republican arguement.

1) we don't torture.

2) okay. we do torture but it works.

3) so, we're not sure it works but nancy knew.

thats a path back to power if i ever saw one.

you must really like the evolution of Obama arguments then.
his positions as a campaigner have not held up very well. first he's closing Gitmo and against tribunals, now he finds out that he can't close Gitmo and tribunals aren't such a bad idea.

Cheney is answering the charges against the Bush administration, he is not trying to be the face of the opposition. frankly its not a bad thing for current Republicans because they don't have to weigh in on the issue, they don't have to be dragged into the nonsense. they can sit back and watch Obama take on his favorite demons; Bush, Cheney, Limbaugh, Rove, etc. the guy is transparent and thin-skinned.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

you must really like the evolution of Obama arguments then.
his positions as a campaigner have not held up very well. first he's closing Gitmo and against tribunals, now he finds out that he can't close Gitmo and tribunals aren't such a bad idea.

Cheney is answering the charges against the Bush administration, he is not trying to be the face of the opposition. frankly its not a bad thing for current Republicans because they don't have to weigh in on the issue, they don't have to be dragged into the nonsense. they can sit back and watch Obama take on his favorite demons; Bush, Cheney, Limbaugh, Rove, etc. the guy is transparent and thin-skinned.

so long as other republicans remain invisible, then cheney and limbaugh are the public face of the party. and i'm not saying that's a bad thing. i'm all for it.

and so far as thin skinned goes, i'd have to give that award to the guy who used to be in an undisclosed location but now can't find enough microphones. he really has made more media appearances since jan 20th then he did all of 2007 and 2008 combined.

that despite the fact "current republicans" might want to distance themselves from past failures.

democratic strategists love cheney. he is doing all he can to delay the day when republicans might return to power. don't expect dems to disengage. it's to their advantage to keep cheney worked up.

that isn't being thin skinned. it's being expedient.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

obama/pelosi. did we give up on obama/blago?

the litmus test for dems has to be that so long as republicans are focused on linking him to the somewhat less popular flavor of the moment, things are going pretty well. particularly with dick cheney insisting on being the public face of the opposition.

and i love the evolution of republican arguement.

1) we don't torture.

2) okay. we do torture but it works.

3) so, we're not sure it works but nancy knew.

thats a path back to power if i ever saw one.

Fox News is based on that 1-2-3 dance method. They often keep going 'til about 10 though.