5/16 (PIM): Preakness (G1); Dixie (G2); Gallorette (G3), et al..

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

NO.

I think it's a tall order and a rough bet at anything less than ... 15-1 at least?

[NoLuvForPletch]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I think it's a tall order and a rough bet at anything less than ... 15-1 at least?

I think people are looking to beat the girl and with the exception of FF, who had an excuse, it's hard to support the others coming out of the KD. He's going to take all the wise guy cash IMO and will be an underlay...

[Derby73]

Kentucky Derby Winner-Preakness Finish

1997: Silver Charm- 1
1998: Real Quiet- 1
1999: Charismatic-1
2000: FuPeg-2 (Beaten by Red Bullet, DNR in Derby)
2001: Monarchos-6 (the only cluncker on the list, Point Given,#5 in Derby)
2002: War Emblem-1
2003: Funny Cide-1
2004: Smarty Jones-1
2005 Giacomo-3
2006: Barbaro- DNF (likely #1)
2007: Street Sense-2 (Curlin,#3 in Derby)
2008: Big Brown-1

Hell, he could finish way back, but how can you throw out MTB in tri boxes?

[booner]

Hard to take Rachel Alexandra at the short price. She has the looks, and on paper should run circles around these. I won't put her on top; instead, I'll use 2 others with her.

I like Friesian Fire today. He did have an excuse last time (the hoof thing), and I like it that it's his 2nd start off that long layoff coming into the Derby. I just feel he is ripe for a big effort.

Take The Points is really intriging to me. He has been training well and is returning to dirt. The two races out west were not that bad. He will be my long shot play.

Probably box these 3 and be done with it. I won't get to see the race until late tonight. And if anyone at this reception I'm going to tells me who wins, I will punch them squarely in the face!!!

Good luck to all today and enjoy the races!!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by booner

Hard to take Rachel Alexandra at the short price. She has the looks, and on paper should run circles around these. I won't put her on top; instead, I'll use 2 others with her.

I like Friesian Fire today. He did have an excuse last time (the hoof thing), and I like it that it's his 2nd start off that long layoff coming into the Derby. I just feel he is ripe for a big effort.

Take The Points is really intriging to me. He has been training well and is returning to dirt. The two races out west were not that bad. He will be my long shot play.

Probably box these 3 and be done with it. I won't get to see the race until late tonight. And if anyone at this reception I'm going to tells me who wins, I will punch them squarely in the face!!!

Good luck to all today and enjoy the races!!

i think that injury was drastically overstated by jones in the heat of the moment after coming in next to last. there's no way that injury was that serious with him losing no training time, and making a return in two weeks. so, just how good an excuse for his incredibly awful performance can that be?

[moses]

Originally Posted by Derby73

Kentucky Derby Winner-Preakness Finish

1997: Silver Charm- 1
1998: Real Quiet- 1
1999: Charismatic-1
2000: FuPeg-2 (Beaten by Red Bullet, DNR in Derby)
2001: Monarchos-6 (the only cluncker on the list, Point Given,#5 in Derby)
2002: War Emblem-1
2003: Funny Cide-1
2004: Smarty Jones-1
2005 Giacomo-3
2006: Barbaro- DNF (likely #1)
2007: Street Sense-2 (Curlin,#3 in Derby)
2008: Big Brown-1

Hell, he could finish way back, but how can you throw out MTB in tri boxes?

I don't know the numbers but how many of those derby winners were 50-1 shots that seemingly came out of nowhere?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by moses

I don't know the numbers but how many of those derby winners were 50-1 shots that seemingly came out of nowhere?

Giacomo certainly came out of nowhere and Charismatic and War Emblem were big prices too. I actually like Mine That Bird today. I know the wedding/funeral rule, but considering the field, I think 6-1 or so is still good value.

Oh and I don't understand saying Barbaro would've won the Preakness had he not broken down. Bernardini was great that day. I think it's far from "likely" that Barbaro would've beaten him.

[Derby73]

Yep, Charismatic was over 30-1 and War Emblem was over 20. Giacomo was 50-1 and thanks to my friend of 25+ years Steve Byk, I actually got to make money on that one.

And Barbaro may not have beaten Bernardini, very true. In fact, Steve helped out that year, too, as I had a play on Bernardini which made up for losing the tribox with Barbaro.