NBA Playoffs

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I have a hard time understanding why Dala is so gaga over the Lakers. They have two really good players, one good player who is hurting, a fair young guy (Bynum- who simply isnt in shape) and a bunch of bums who dont really have any idea of what they are doing and/or are afraid of getting yelled at by Kobe. Why anyone would think they have a prayer against Cleveland is beyond me. They will beat Houston at home because they cant expect Scola and Brooks to play that well again and Darth Stern will have the refs make sure it happens (and as bad as the refs have been no one will be able to tell the difference)

As good as Denver is playing they will beat LA a few times and i never thought that they could.

The other series is awful. Orlando played poorly, shot FT's horrifically and still closed out Boston last night. The funny thing about Boston is that they are totally dead yet are still in this series. The Bulls series while exciting showed that they are pretty well finished because honestly the Bulls arent very good.

Its interesting that delonte west is considered a "good nba player" and Trevor Ariza is a "bum". Or derek fisher is a "bum".

And, Kobe Bryant, is just a "really good nba player".

LOL. Objectivity is definitely a strong suit.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Its interesting that delonte west is considered a "good nba player" and Trevor Ariza is a "bum". Or derek fisher is a "bum".

And, Kobe Bryant, is just a "really good nba player".

LOL. Objectivity is definitely a strong suit.

You really think Ariza or Fischer are as good as West? Seriously? I happen to be a Knicks fan but if you think that either is close to West your objectivity may not be in question but your sanity certainly would.

Ariza is a limited player. Fischer is just old. I know his glowing stat line from this years playoffs (7 points and 2 assists per) may dazzle you and his defense is Loyola Marymountesque but those intangibles that he brings to the table along with that 7% 3 point shooting during the current series totally tilt the table in his favor.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You really think Ariza or Fischer are as good as West? Seriously? I happen to be a Knicks fan but if you think that either is close to West your objectivity may not be in question but your sanity certainly would.

Ariza is a limited player. Fischer is just old. I know his glowing stat line from this years playoffs (7 points and 2 assists per) may dazzle you and his defense is Loyola Marymountesque but those intangibles that he brings to the table along with that 7% 3 point shooting during the current series totally tilt the table in his favor.

Ariza is a much better defender than Delonte west will ever dream of being. He is longer and more athletic. Both are very mediocre offensively. What is the big difference? Ariza, at 6 7, can legitimately cover three positions. Regardless of whom you favor, they are about the same level of player.

And why the hell are we debating the merits of career 10 ppg scorers? LOL

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Ariza is a much better defender than Delonte west will ever dream of being. He is longer and more athletic. Both are very mediocre offensively. What is the big difference? Ariza, at 6 7, can legitimately cover three positions. Regardless of whom you favor, they are about the same level of player.

And why the hell are we debating the merits of career 10 ppg scorers? LOL

Wow. Delonte West basically puts the collar on Joe Johnson and Rip Hamilton and some guy the Knicks deemed expendable is a much better defender? The guy who is the primary small defender on the best defensive team in the NBA? West is head and shoulders above Ariza as a complimentary offensive player.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Wow. Delonte West basically puts the collar on Joe Johnson and Rip Hamilton and some guy the Knicks deemed expendable is a much better defender? The guy who is the primary small defender on the best defensive team in the NBA? West is head and shoulders above Ariza as a complimentary offensive player.

"Someone the knicks deemed expendable"-

Are you joking? You are talking about an Isaiah Thomas move. Thats like saying that Ben Wallace was worthless because the Wizards (and orlando for that matter) deemed him expendable. Its even more funny when using that to compare him to Delonte West...a guy who was deemed expendable by a team THAT NO LONGER EXISTS.

Delonte isnt head and shoulders above anyone as a scorer in the NBA besides Ben Wallace. He is a career 11 ppg scorer. Come on.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

"Someone the knicks deemed expendable"-

Are you joking? You are talking about an Isaiah Thomas move. Thats like saying that Ben Wallace was worthless because the Wizards (and orlando for that matter) deemed him expendable. Its even more funny when using that to compare him to Delonte West...a guy who was deemed expendable by a team THAT NO LONGER EXISTS.

Delonte isnt head and shoulders above anyone as a scorer in the NBA besides Ben Wallace. He is a career 11 ppg scorer. Come on.

The knicks didnt have a problem with getting rid of players that came back to bite them in the ass. It was the acquisitions that Isiah had trouble with.

PJ Carlisimo is one of the worst coaches in NBA history. Why he didn't play West at his natural position or eventually play him at all is frightening. If you watched the NBA and the playoffs this year and couldnt see that West is a very good player you are either blind or have slipped into the dreaded Scudszone. I just pray the Lakers dont fck it up today or against Denver so you cant weasel out with some hypothetical theory on why Cleveland or West arent worthy.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Wow. Delonte West basically puts the collar on Joe Johnson and Rip Hamilton and some guy the Knicks deemed expendable is a much better defender? The guy who is the primary small defender on the best defensive team in the NBA? West is head and shoulders above Ariza as a complimentary offensive player.

I almost forgot about this gem. LOL

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I almost forgot about this gem. LOL

Has Ariza ever created his own shot even once in the playoffs??? His offensive contributions include standing at the three point line and taking open jumpers when Gasol and Kobe are doubled.

He is basically playing the Steve kerr role at 6'8". While he has hit the open jumpers he is hardly an offensive factor. And his defense on Anthony....

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Has Ariza ever created his own shot even once in the playoffs??? His offensive contributions include standing at the three point line and taking open jumpers when Gasol and Kobe are doubled.

He is basically playing the Steve kerr role at 6'8". While he has hit the open jumpers he is hardly an offensive factor. And his defense on Anthony....

Not the point Mr. Shell. You said Delonte West was way better. I said they were about the same.

So far, Ariza has made at very least an equal impact but objectively speaking he has made more of an impact than Delonte West.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Wow. Delonte West basically puts the collar on Joe Johnson and Rip Hamilton and some guy the Knicks deemed expendable is a much better defender? The guy who is the primary small defender on the best defensive team in the NBA? West is head and shoulders above Ariza as a complimentary offensive player.

Now he has done the same to Hedo. At some point you will admit he is a very good defensive player.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Now he has done the same to Hedo. At some point you will admit he is a very good defensive player.

He is a very good defensive player

[dalakhani]

at some point you will admit that delonte is no better than ariza all around. They are virtually the same player. Delonte a little better off the dribble, ariza better in the open court.