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Old 05-15-2009, 10:09 AM
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I agree. Although I thought Odom played well for a guy with a back that is clearly bothering him. He was rebounding and made a few shots when they needed it.

True - I forgot about his back!

Fisher plays 21 minutes and scores 2 pt
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Old 05-15-2009, 10:23 AM
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I have a hard time understanding why Dala is so gaga over the Lakers. They have two really good players, one good player who is hurting, a fair young guy (Bynum- who simply isnt in shape) and a bunch of bums who dont really have any idea of what they are doing and/or are afraid of getting yelled at by Kobe. Why anyone would think they have a prayer against Cleveland is beyond me. They will beat Houston at home because they cant expect Scola and Brooks to play that well again and Darth Stern will have the refs make sure it happens (and as bad as the refs have been no one will be able to tell the difference)

As good as Denver is playing they will beat LA a few times and i never thought that they could.

The other series is awful. Orlando played poorly, shot FT's horrifically and still closed out Boston last night. The funny thing about Boston is that they are totally dead yet are still in this series. The Bulls series while exciting showed that they are pretty well finished because honestly the Bulls arent very good.
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Old 05-15-2009, 12:45 PM
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I have a hard time understanding why Dala is so gaga over the Lakers. They have two really good players, one good player who is hurting, a fair young guy (Bynum- who simply isnt in shape) and a bunch of bums who dont really have any idea of what they are doing and/or are afraid of getting yelled at by Kobe. Why anyone would think they have a prayer against Cleveland is beyond me. They will beat Houston at home because they cant expect Scola and Brooks to play that well again and Darth Stern will have the refs make sure it happens (and as bad as the refs have been no one will be able to tell the difference)

As good as Denver is playing they will beat LA a few times and i never thought that they could.

The other series is awful. Orlando played poorly, shot FT's horrifically and still closed out Boston last night. The funny thing about Boston is that they are totally dead yet are still in this series. The Bulls series while exciting showed that they are pretty well finished because honestly the Bulls arent very good.
Its interesting that delonte west is considered a "good nba player" and Trevor Ariza is a "bum". Or derek fisher is a "bum".

And, Kobe Bryant, is just a "really good nba player".

LOL. Objectivity is definitely a strong suit.
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Old 05-16-2009, 12:32 AM
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Its interesting that delonte west is considered a "good nba player" and Trevor Ariza is a "bum". Or derek fisher is a "bum".

And, Kobe Bryant, is just a "really good nba player".

LOL. Objectivity is definitely a strong suit.
You really think Ariza or Fischer are as good as West? Seriously? I happen to be a Knicks fan but if you think that either is close to West your objectivity may not be in question but your sanity certainly would.

Ariza is a limited player. Fischer is just old. I know his glowing stat line from this years playoffs (7 points and 2 assists per) may dazzle you and his defense is Loyola Marymountesque but those intangibles that he brings to the table along with that 7% 3 point shooting during the current series totally tilt the table in his favor.
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Old 05-16-2009, 10:46 AM
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You really think Ariza or Fischer are as good as West? Seriously? I happen to be a Knicks fan but if you think that either is close to West your objectivity may not be in question but your sanity certainly would.

Ariza is a limited player. Fischer is just old. I know his glowing stat line from this years playoffs (7 points and 2 assists per) may dazzle you and his defense is Loyola Marymountesque but those intangibles that he brings to the table along with that 7% 3 point shooting during the current series totally tilt the table in his favor.
Ariza is a much better defender than Delonte west will ever dream of being. He is longer and more athletic. Both are very mediocre offensively. What is the big difference? Ariza, at 6 7, can legitimately cover three positions. Regardless of whom you favor, they are about the same level of player.

And why the hell are we debating the merits of career 10 ppg scorers? LOL
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Ariza is a much better defender than Delonte west will ever dream of being. He is longer and more athletic. Both are very mediocre offensively. What is the big difference? Ariza, at 6 7, can legitimately cover three positions. Regardless of whom you favor, they are about the same level of player.

And why the hell are we debating the merits of career 10 ppg scorers? LOL
Wow. Delonte West basically puts the collar on Joe Johnson and Rip Hamilton and some guy the Knicks deemed expendable is a much better defender? The guy who is the primary small defender on the best defensive team in the NBA? West is head and shoulders above Ariza as a complimentary offensive player.
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Wow. Delonte West basically puts the collar on Joe Johnson and Rip Hamilton and some guy the Knicks deemed expendable is a much better defender? The guy who is the primary small defender on the best defensive team in the NBA? West is head and shoulders above Ariza as a complimentary offensive player.
"Someone the knicks deemed expendable"-

Are you joking? You are talking about an Isaiah Thomas move. Thats like saying that Ben Wallace was worthless because the Wizards (and orlando for that matter) deemed him expendable. Its even more funny when using that to compare him to Delonte West...a guy who was deemed expendable by a team THAT NO LONGER EXISTS.

Delonte isnt head and shoulders above anyone as a scorer in the NBA besides Ben Wallace. He is a career 11 ppg scorer. Come on.
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Old 05-24-2009, 10:05 AM
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Wow. Delonte West basically puts the collar on Joe Johnson and Rip Hamilton and some guy the Knicks deemed expendable is a much better defender? The guy who is the primary small defender on the best defensive team in the NBA? West is head and shoulders above Ariza as a complimentary offensive player.
I almost forgot about this gem. LOL
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Wow. Delonte West basically puts the collar on Joe Johnson and Rip Hamilton and some guy the Knicks deemed expendable is a much better defender? The guy who is the primary small defender on the best defensive team in the NBA? West is head and shoulders above Ariza as a complimentary offensive player.
Now he has done the same to Hedo. At some point you will admit he is a very good defensive player.
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I have a hard time understanding why Dala is so gaga over the Lakers. They have two really good players, one good player who is hurting, a fair young guy (Bynum- who simply isnt in shape) and a bunch of bums who dont really have any idea of what they are doing and/or are afraid of getting yelled at by Kobe. Why anyone would think they have a prayer against Cleveland is beyond me. They will beat Houston at home because they cant expect Scola and Brooks to play that well again and Darth Stern will have the refs make sure it happens (and as bad as the refs have been no one will be able to tell the difference)

As good as Denver is playing they will beat LA a few times and i never thought that they could.

The other series is awful. Orlando played poorly, shot FT's horrifically and still closed out Boston last night. The funny thing about Boston is that they are totally dead yet are still in this series. The Bulls series while exciting showed that they are pretty well finished because honestly the Bulls arent very good.
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What exactly is wrong about what I said? They won and played well but they hardly cruised through the field like you were implying. They did beat Houston, denver did beat them a few times, Bynum didnt do much, the good players played well, and the Celtics know what I said was correct as they are trying to make a big move again this offseason. Seems like most of what I said was right. As usual.
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Old 06-15-2009, 01:04 PM
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What exactly is wrong about what I said? They won and played well but they hardly cruised through the field like you were implying. They did beat Houston, denver did beat them a few times, Bynum didnt do much, the good players played well, and the Celtics know what I said was correct as they are trying to make a big move again this offseason. Seems like most of what I said was right. As usual.
Ariza still a bum?
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Ariza still a bum?
no he is pretty good. Surely steroids are to blame for his improvement.
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no he is pretty good. Surely steroids are to blame for his improvement.
LOL, alright i think this dead horse has been adequately beaten. On to the next topic.
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I really hope the Rockets win Game 7.
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I really hope the Rockets win Game 7.
They might. Vulvachick and Farmar can't hit the side of a barn. I wish they would both retire and free up some money for the team...or get sex changes and play for the Sparks.
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They might. Vulvachick and Farmar can't hit the side of a barn. I wish they would both retire and free up some money for the team...or get sex changes and play for the Sparks.
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They might. Vulvachick and Farmar can't hit the side of a barn. I wish they would both retire and free up some money for the team...or get sex changes and play for the Sparks.
yea, what is up with that??? I have friends that would've had a better series than him. A far cry from last year's playoffs.

I'm eager to see how game 7 plays out. The table is set for Kobe to work some of his magic. He'll have to do it with Battier's hand in his face though. They'll have to pressure Brooks a hell of alot more than they've been if they want a crack at Denver.
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I don't know what's going on with them. My guess is that team chemistry is all f.ucked up because you have a pacifist douchenozzle for a coach who rode the coattails of Jordan and Shaq and you have a narcissist star player with control issues who chews out his teammates. And when the teammates look for the coach to put the star player in check he plays the p.ussy buddhist route by not taking sides and lets them down in the process.

They need a bully coach who will take sides with Kobe and a bunch of followers who won't get moody when they don't get their way.
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I don't know what's going on with them. My guess is that team chemistry is all f.ucked up because you have a pacifist douchenozzle for a coach who rode the coattails of Jordan and Shaq and you have a narcissist star player with control issues who chews out his teammates. And when the teammates look for the coach to put the star player in check he plays the p.ussy buddhist route by not taking sides and lets them down in the process.

They need a bully coach who will take sides with Kobe and a bunch of followers who won't get moody when they don't get their way.
I agree...the chemistry looks like its gone. The clips of Kobe getting in everyone's face were very telling as was Jackson's press conference where he basically said, "oh well, it's only a game."

It looks like Bynum HATES Kobe. About four different times this series they've showed the Lakers bench when Kobe makes a great play and half of them either intentionally look away or just clap once and that's it.

I think the Rockets will lose Game 7, but as a fan I am pleased with their season. I'm tired of saying imagine what'd happen if Yao stayed healthy but they've clearly become a much better team when he's hurt thanks to one of the best front office guys no one knows about.

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