Andrew Bynum=No Championship

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The Lakers guards are a problem. If you dont see that as a weakness I'm not sure what you are watching. Cleveland presents all kinds of matchup problems for the Lakers and they are a superior defensive team. If anyone wants to wager on the series please let me know.

Lets do it. 100 bucks?

[King Glorious]

Phil Jackson coached teams won several championships with Ron Harper and Brian Shaw as starting point guards. That alone tells anyone the importance of having a true point guard.

[NTamm1215]

Mo Williams, Delonte West and any other quick guard the Cavs trot out there are going to have their way on the Lakers guards who are horrible defensively.

I think all in all there are more matchup problems for the Cavs in a Cavs-Lakers series but the Lakers guards will be a huge liability from a defensive standpoint.

Back to the original post, though, Andrew Bynum really needs to sit down because he's not healthy enough to be playing right now.

NT

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Mo Williams, Delonte West and any other quick guard the Cavs trot out there are going to have their way on the Lakers guards who are horrible defensively.

I think all in all there are more matchup problems for the Cavs in a Cavs-Lakers series but the Lakers guards will be a huge liability from a defensive standpoint.

Back to the original post, though, Andrew Bynum really needs to sit down because he's not healthy enough to be playing right now.

NT

The Lakers have trouble with quick guards and Williams and Gibson will be trouble for them. Kobe will have to actually pay attention to West and not just rest up for the offensive end. West can matchup fairly well with Kobe on the other end with Lebron getting some time on him also. The funny hair guy and Wallace gives the cavs 12 fouls against the Lakers post players and both are role players that understand that they play defense and rebound. Joe Smith and Lebron are a good matchup defensively with Odom. The biggest matchup problem will be the Lakers guards against the Williams and Gibson. That will be a major issue for LA. If Williams and Gibson are hitting the open three, this will be a 5 game series. Cleveland has all of its roster at full strength, have depth, a tremendous home court advantage, players all playing at their ability level not playing out of thier minds ready to come back to earth, are well rested and they best overall player. Brown has very good substitution patterns right now, has delegated the offensive duties to assistants and has learned from his mistakes. I killed Danny Ferry a couple of years ago but he has really created a well rounded team around James with role players that play their roles well, depth and found the missing piece in getting Williams. He did a great job making this a team though having LBJ to build around certainly makes it easier.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

West can matchup fairly well with Kobe on the other end with Lebron getting some time on him also .

Chuck, I love you buddy, but did you really type this?

pgardn...please get off of chuck's keyboard!

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Chuck, I love you buddy, but did you really type this?

pgardn...please get off of chuck's keyboard!

West is a good matchup on Kobe in regards to size and speed. He is the same size and has quick hands. That isnt to say that Kobe wont still score 35 but he will have to work for it and they will have Lebron match up with him as well to try to wear him down. Not to mention that if Kobe freelances on the defensive end West will bury the Lakers with open jumpers. Hard to believe that this guy couldnt get minutes in Seattle, he is a really good player.

imo Bynum is sitting around because the Lakers
are just running so much. They are pushing the
ball very hard. And that means running to get back on
D as well. Bynum is not ready for this type
of game. Gasol and Odom are much better suited
for this type of game.

[dalakhani]

[quote=Cannon Shell]West is a good matchup on Kobe in regards to size and speed. He is the same size

What? Kobe is 6 6 205. west is 6 3 (in heels!) and 180. Same size? Besides, everyone knows Kobe is bothered more by length than speed on defense. Same speed? Whatever you say buddy.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Phil Jackson coached teams won several championships with Ron Harper and Brian Shaw as starting point guards. That alone tells anyone the importance of having a true point guard.

Ron Harper and Brian Shaw are a few notches up from what they are trotting out there now.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Ron Harper and Brian Shaw are a few notches up from what they are trotting out there now.

The point being that you don't need a traditional point guard. Neither one of them, especially Harper (still my second favorite NBA player ever) was a point guard. Same as you don't need a true center in that offense either. They won titles with Luc Longley.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

The point being that you don't need a traditional point guard. Neither one of them, especially Harper (still my second favorite NBA player ever) was a point guard. Same as you don't need a true center in that offense either. They won titles with Luc Longley.

True but both had a ball controlling star (Jordan and Kobe) which plays out fine on the offensive end. The other end of the court is an issue though.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

True but both had a ball controlling star (Jordan and Kobe) which plays out fine on the offensive end. The other end of the court is an issue though.

It might be. The problem will be that the Lakers don't have a superior talent advantage over the Cavs. Deron Williams killed them. Brooks is killing them now. Chris Paul kills them. Guys like Williams and Paul kill everyone though. In today's game, with the rules the way they are about touching guys, every team in the league has problems with quick point guards. Even the teams WITH quick point guards. Paul can't guard Williams and vice versa. So I don't think that the Lakers would be that much better with a better defensive guard. It wouldn't hurt of course but I don't know how much it would help. I think that what will help them is that fact that LeBron is a ball controlling star for Cleveland and not their point guards. I think that if they use a lineup that has Bryant and Ariza in the backcourt, that's their best lineup. Ariza has the athletic ability and length to stay in front of their point guards. Brown, Fisher, and Farmer can't do anything with them.

[Antitrust32]

I'm really not sure why everyone assumes its going to be a Lakers/Cavs matchup.

The way Denver is playing I see them beating the Lakers.

I also think the Cavs playoff record is going to be 12-0 heading to the finals and whoever plays them will be LUCKY to win 2 games.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

It might be. The problem will be that the Lakers don't have a superior talent advantage over the Cavs. Deron Williams killed them. Brooks is killing them now. Chris Paul kills them. Guys like Williams and Paul kill everyone though. In today's game, with the rules the way they are about touching guys, every team in the league has problems with quick point guards. Even the teams WITH quick point guards. Paul can't guard Williams and vice versa. So I don't think that the Lakers would be that much better with a better defensive guard. It wouldn't hurt of course but I don't know how much it would help. I think that what will help them is that fact that LeBron is a ball controlling star for Cleveland and not their point guards. I think that if they use a lineup that has Bryant and Ariza in the backcourt, that's their best lineup. Ariza has the athletic ability and length to stay in front of their point guards. Brown, Fisher, and Farmer can't do anything with them.

That lineup is too big and gives them no spot up shooters. Ariza in the lineup with Bryant is fine but you need fisher, Sasha or Farmar prepared to shoot or else defenses can cheat over on kobe or in the paint with the floor so unbalanced.

lakers front line creates huge mismatches against Cleveland. Cleveland's best interior defender is Verejao and he is too small to guard Gasol or Bynum. Illguaskus is too slow.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Lets do it. 100 bucks?

Done