Manny Busted for Juicing

[gales0678]

well matsui isn't exactly a bum , i don't think that has as much to do with it as everybody thinks

i think he will hit better in time because he stops pressing at the plate , if you want to corelate that to a-rod's return so be it

as cannon says there are others issues with this team - and i agree with him on that , the 1st is the manger does not have the make up to make it in NY IMO (i'm not talking about the injuires) .... he just looks paranoid to me

the pitching is a concern as well

i have been wrong about coaches in NY in the past - i never thought Tom Coughlin could take any team let alone a NY team to the promised land - in time he proved me wrong , i will hope Girardi proves me wrong too

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by gales0678

well matsui isn't exactly a bum , i don't think that has as much to do with it as everybody thinks

i think he will hit better in time because he stops pressing at the plate , if you want to corelate that to a-rod's return so be it

as cannon says there are others issues with this team - and i agree with him on that , the 1st is the manger does not have the make up to make it in NY IMO (i'm not talking about the injuires) .... he just looks paranoid to me

the pitching is a concern as well

i have been wrong about coaches in NY in the past - i never thought Tom Coughlin could take any team let alone a NY team to the promised land - in time he proved me wrong , i will hope Girardi proves me wrong too

Coughlin changed his whole personna and became more of a players coach instead of being a constant prick.
Im not a big Girardi guy either, but really what kind of managing should he have to do with that team.
Pitching is the #1 issue. The entire staff has been very eratic (maybe with the exception of Burnett). And the bullpen has been downright horrendous at times. If they could get that straight, they should be alright.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Coughlin changed his whole personna and became more of a players coach instead of being a constant prick.
Im not a big Girardi guy either, but really what kind of managing should he have to do with that team.
Pitching is the #1 issue. The entire staff has been very eratic (maybe with the exception of Burnett). And the bullpen has been downright horrendous at times. If they could get that straight, they should be alright.

it's not per se anything he did wrong or does wrong , i just don't get a feel he will bring a winner to ny , like i said i was wrong about TC

he was 30 minutes away in buffalo from not coming back , everything went right for him in that spot and after that game , but , if they had lost up there the giants would have had a new coach

will see how joe does it will play out one way or the other

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Coughlin changed his whole personna and became more of a players coach instead of being a constant prick.
Im not a big Girardi guy either, but really what kind of managing should he have to do with that team.
Pitching is the #1 issue. The entire staff has been very eratic (maybe with the exception of Burnett). And the bullpen has been downright horrendous at times. If they could get that straight, they should be alright.

Get Sabathia dealing, and the others will get brave. Don't know about the closer though. That was ugly. Could be a third more follicly challenged by game time tonite.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Get Sabathia dealing, and the others will get brave. Don't know about the closer though. That was ugly. Could be a third more follicly challenged by game time tonite.

He does this ever other year. He gets a tired arm, then they shut him down for 2-3 weeks and then he comes back as good as new. But he is no youngster anymore plus they don't even have a closer in training. Obviously Joba is the most logical, I think he should be in the pen, but they are hellbent on keeping him as a starter. The next most logical guy is Brunney, but he is always hurt too. Things are so bad that they will probably bring in Gagne (he is available, right?) for a tryout next week if Mo ends up on the DL. But you would think that if they keep scoring runs like they are, that the pitching will eventually stablize itself.

[CSC]

I heard on the radio today masking agents were part of the problem, you can only detect what is detectable...and Manny tested positive for a masking agent.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by CSC

I heard on the radio today masking agents were part of the problem, you can only detect what is detectable...and Manny tested positive for a masking agent.

Well, all I know is that he tested with a high testosterone level. That's it. So, they went fishing for "why dat?" They found his Physician gave him something with this HCG. That's a legal drug to give men in this country, but it's not allowed in baseball. If a guy has low testosterone, or low sperm count, then sometimes they are prescribed it (sort of doubt that's typical practice, but.... )What it mainly is really used for is to turn a guys balls back on, cuz steroids turn them off. So, they're saying Manny probably did the roids. Then stopped the roids, and got the HCG to get his balls to make testosterone again. Doc gave him too much HCG. He didn't fight this much. I'm guessing they had more about what he did earlier in the winter. 7mil lost, and no HALL for the individual.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Well, all I know is that he tested with a high testosterone level. That's it. So, they went fishing for "why dat?" They found his Physician gave him something with this HCG. That's a legal drug to give men in this country, but it's not allowed in baseball. If a guy has low testosterone, or low sperm count, then sometimes they are prescribed it (sort of doubt that's typical practice, but.... )What it mainly is really used for is to turn a guys balls back on, cuz steroids turn them off. So, they're saying Manny probably did the roids. Then stopped the roids, and got the HCG to get his balls to make testosterone again. Doc gave him too much HCG. He didn't fight this much. I'm guessing they had more about what he did earlier in the winter. 7mil lost, and no HALL for the individual.

It was a female fertility drug dude. There is no reason for that to ever be in a males system unless he's masking.