Dear Dubai apologists...

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I really have less than zero interest in California racing so I don't know who they are. If you'd like to tell me, that's great.

NT

He ruined several prospects in Ky and NY, as well as Ca.

As for me telling you who, your apathy towards the whole thing has affected me too.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

He ruined several prospects in Ky and NY, as well as Ca.

As for me telling you who, your apathy towards the whole thing has affected me too.

In NY over the last five years he's 7 of 51 with 2YO for an ROI of $0.84.

Below is a list of 2YO he's started on the NYRA circuit during that time:

Armament
Barbican
Barcola
Beholden
Bellevue Belle
Bemused
Chambermaid
Changing Weather
Desert Party
Dixie Lyrics
Elusive Schemes
Exotic Story
Golden Manna
Hatta Flower
Imperial Reign
Incriminate
Keep Thinking
Marietta
Maxey Boy
Media City
My Golden Opinion
Northern Pick
Positive Force
Reynaldothewizard
Rondo
Sahara Heat
Stormy Blessing
Sweet Ariette
Tates Queen
Testimony
Unification

It's fine if you think he has ruined 2YO I just would love to know who, my apathy for CA racing aside.

NT

[Linny]

Please , which of that list would have been legit TC candidates? About half were fillies. Several others were sprint or miler bred and unlikely to get 10f in G1 racing. Others appeared to be OK but many were taken away and sent to Dubai.
Several on that list were described to me as "not much" by people within the Darley/Godolphin training operations, so don't kid yourself into seeing all those horses as classic prospects.

As for Desert Party, he won a graded race at Saratoga before getting hurt in the fall. The brain trust at Godolphin took him to Dubai and planned out a schedule for him as a sprinter even though he's by Street Cry from a mare by a Belmont winner. They never really considered either RR or DP as Derby colts until the UAE Derby.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Linny, do you have a favorite porn site or type of porn?

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

In NY over the last five years he's 7 of 51 with 2YO for an ROI of $0.84.

Below is a list of 2YO he's started on the NYRA circuit during that time:


Barbican



NT

He was one of my favorites and then he got hurt and really sucked afterwards.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

He was one of my favorites and then he got hurt and really sucked afterwards.

He's now standing in Pa.

Any horse who has been defeated at Penn National with a Beattie training will not make a great sire imo.