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05-06-2009, 11:05 AM
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perhaps there is no freaking way to explain it. Even if the horse had won the Freaking Sunland Park derby he would have been 40-1 at best. And we all would have tossed his ass out still. He showed grit as a two year old but he showed nothing as a three year old Marty. Nothing we come up with after the race would justify betting him in the race. Nothing the only thing i disagree with is writing this horse off after he just won the Derby by 7 with a 105 Beyer. I'd like to see him run a few more times before writing him off... Am I going to use him him the Preakness?? most likely not unless somehow he's high odds (15-1 or higher) which is very unlikely. I'm probably not going to bet the Preakness at all... I'm still pissed at my piss poor opinion of the Derby. I also agree with Coach that the Derby made a lot of horses look really bad... and I dont think the 2nd, 3rd or 4th finishers were impressive at all...
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05-06-2009, 11:07 AM
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he listed at 5/1 for the Preakness
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05-06-2009, 11:13 AM
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You cannot dismiss that tgraph tapped him as one of the few eligible for a new top . And MTB delivered that top . It seems he will probably be a couple of points off that top in the Preakness but that might be good enough to win . We need to look at the form cycle for horses ready for a new top for the Preakness.
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05-06-2009, 01:19 PM
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05-06-2009, 05:34 PM
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05-06-2009, 07:33 PM
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"was relatively slow at two, and finally moved forward last time. There is nothing wrong with this pattern, and with rest he has a good chance to run a new top now -- but he would need an enormous jump to be competitive."
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05-06-2009, 07:52 PM
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coa had a choice of mounts, opting to remain with musket man over big drama, who will now have jonnie v in the irons.
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05-06-2009, 08:06 PM
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In fact, I said he was even money to finish last. 
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05-11-2009, 06:25 PM
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He wont win the Preakness. The Filly will bounce. Pioneer of Thenile will win.
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05-11-2009, 06:59 PM
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Tuesday at Pimlico
· Papa Clem will work at 7 am · Friesan Fire scheduled for 8 am work. Trainer Larry Jones to decide on Preakness after breeze · Big Drama has been here since last Tuesday. He has been going to the track at 6:30 am · D. Wayne Lukas’ horses (Flying Private & Luv Gov) leaving Louisville at 4 am · General Quarters scheduled to leave Churchill at 5 am · Mine That Bird will leave Kentucky at 9 am Van drivers tell us it is 10-11 hours from Churchill to Pimlico. Derby winner will get a police escort from Route 70, prior to the Baltimore Beltway into Old Hilltop.
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05-11-2009, 07:00 PM
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05-11-2009, 07:12 PM
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984.
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05-11-2009, 07:17 PM
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This will work out well when another drunken brawl breaks out.
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