Mind that Bird last race before the derby

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

What speed figure fools aren't accepting the outcome in this thread?

i don't know about this thread other then the guy that was trying to explain this horses final half. but, i've read beyers crap after he got burned at GP. believe me people are looking at these numbers and crying. they just don't work that good from track to track or suface to surface. if they did people would be winning all the time and it would not be gambling. i'll look at them but by no means is that the only reason to bet a horse. if it were the highest fig would win alot more than it does. some look at the numbers religiously which is ridiculous. any horse can win, with the right set-up and effort. a number can't tell you that. using your imagination though might. if every 6-5 shot with highest number won , i would hate racing.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

i don't know about this thread other then the guy that was trying to explain this horses final half. but, i've read beyers crap after he got burned at GP. believe me people are looking at these numbers and crying. they just don't work that good from track to track or suface to surface. if they did people would be winning all the time and it would not be gambling. i'll look at them but by no means is that the only reason to bet a horse. if it were the highest fig would win alot more than it does. some look at the numbers religiously which is ridiculous. any horse can win, with the right set-up and effort. a number can't tell you that. using your imagination though might. if every 6-5 shot with highest number won , i would hate racing.

Didn't War Emblem have the highest Beyer going into the 2002 Derby? And he paid $43.00 to win, go figure.

[slotdirt]

I want to punch myself in the nads for continuing to post on this thread, but I'm not talking about figures or anything else, I am just discussing the insanity that was Mine that Bird's closing speed on Saturday.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

I want to punch myself in the nads for continuing to post on this thread, but I'm not talking about figures or anything else, I am just discussing the insanity that was Mine that Bird's closing speed on Saturday.

well what can you attribute it to? surely it has to be something? it just can't be one of those unexplained events

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by gales0678

well what can you attribute it to? surely it has to be something? it just can't be one of those unexplained events

15 horses didn't handle the mud. He handled it better than the other 3 who did.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

15 horses didn't handle the mud. He handled it better than the other 3 who did.

what about the last 4 f in 47and change - 2nd fastest time in ky derby history?

[slotdirt]

I don't know that it was the second fastest in KD history. That might be extrapolating.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by gales0678

what about the last 4 f in 47and change - 2nd fastest time in ky derby history?

He was on the best part of the track.

[Benny Leger]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

15 horses didn't handle the mud. He handled it better than the other 3 who did.

Why did any of the Horses have to handle the mud in the first place. Why didn't the track super open the track up and at least try and dry it out. It didn't rain Sat. anytime after dawn.

[Benny Leger]

I didn't see a whole lot of difference in the weather here from Friday to Saturday. They worked the track for the whole card friday, and it was fine by Oaks time. Why not at least try to dry it up for the first half of the card...and if it ain't happenin'...reseal it.

[sdjcom]

Originally Posted by gales0678

well what can you attribute it to? surely it has to be something? it just can't be one of those unexplained events

jet fuel in the feed

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by sdjcom

jet fuel in the feed

well the trainer said he was getting equine massages the week before so maybe he was just tense in his other races? or no?

[sdjcom]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

well the trainer said he was getting equine massages the week before so maybe he was just tense in his other races? or no?

after seeing that race i would believe anything , massages may be the trick. i really think the horse thought if i don't win the derby my ass will be riding 17 1/2 hrs back in stead of flying f-that

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

well the trainer said he was getting equine massages the week before so maybe he was just tense in his other races? or no?

This is what Dutrow said turned around Saint Liam.

[JJP]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

well the trainer said he was getting equine massages the week before so maybe he was just tense in his other races? or no?

I can just see that becoming the new craze. But nothing, for sheer idiocy, can top D. Wayne Lukas putting 3 inch nasal strips on top of a horse's nose. Like those little strips would've made any difference.