Derby thoughts....

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

I still feel completely cheated that I went all the way down to Louisville again only to see Mine that motherf-ing Bird in the Derby. At least I got to see Rachel Alexandra.

LOL... too bad he is gelded... "Mine that motherf-ing Bird" could be his offspring...

[randallscott35]

Don't feel cheated. It was a crazy race. A great ride. A memorable performance. Unpredictability is a great thing in horse racing....In fact a result like that is easier to stomach.

[Thunder Gulch]

A few years back a couple of friends of mine started pooling an all/all exacta in the Derby. You would have made money in over half of the last ten years, including the 9800 Giacomo score. It's also not bad in the Belmont with a smaller investment and recent bombs like DaTara, Lemon Drop Kid, Commendable, and Sarava. Not your everyday-every race bet, but it's working for them.

[MaTH716]

Maybe the fact you feel cheated has to due with the lack of triple crown chatter. Usually there is so much talk/hype after the derby about the winner possibly being "the horse". But after this result no one has mentioned the words Triple Crown. Let alone the exciting summer races down the road.
After all the medicore talk about last years crop, we all thought that this years was going to be head and shoulders better. But guess what. Obiviously we lost the front runners to injury. Most of what was left didn't lift a hoof in the race for various reasons/excuses. And we are left with an unlikely winner who might not even go to Pimlico.
So much for TC fever this year. Maybe that's why some of you feel cheated. Makes you kind of miss the exciement that surrounded Big Brown.

[slotdirt]

At least I could hate on Big Brown. I'm still so shocked that this nag won the Derby that I haven't even mustered up the energy for hate yet.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

first off congrats to calvin/trainer/connections. did i win money on the race no. did i try yes .im more concerned about the impact that this will have in the future.you may have lost 200 bucks betting the derby. look at what the
breeders, bloodstock, connections of horses that were purchased with a whole lot more money at the big sales did the pre subscibed charting of the races too have enough graded money. flying the horses in ,hotels,sky boxes,
partys ect. to get beat soundly by a horse that was purchased for less than the bar tab at the jordan suite. came in town in a one horse trailer,with a jock
who had not seen the horse til monday the week of the race. though i love it for the little guy to pull off such a great feat. i fear that as a whole some of the big owners and midlevel guys would say why bother..in the end i think it
hurts everyone..my 2 c..hooves

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

first off congrats to calvin/trainer/connections. did i win money on the race no. did i try yes .im more concerned about the impact that this will have in the future.you may have lost 200 bucks betting the derby. look at what the
breeders, bloodstock, connections of horses that were purchased with a whole lot more money at the big sales did the pre subscibed charting of the races too have enough graded money. flying the horses in ,hotels,sky boxes,
partys ect. to get beat soundly by a horse that was purchased for less than the bar tab at the jordan suite. came in town in a one horse trailer,with a jock
who had not seen the horse til monday the week of the race. though i love it for the little guy to pull off such a great feat. i fear that as a whole some of the big owners and midlevel guys would say why bother..in the end i think it
hurts everyone..my 2 c..hooves

yeah, next year we won't have 20 in the gate because people won't want to make the attempt.

[2 Dollar Bill]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

first off congrats to calvin/trainer/connections. did i win money on the race no. did i try yes .im more concerned about the impact that this will have in the future.you may have lost 200 bucks betting the derby. look at what the
breeders, bloodstock, connections of horses that were purchased with a whole lot more money at the big sales did the pre subscibed charting of the races too have enough graded money. flying the horses in ,hotels,sky boxes,
partys ect. to get beat soundly by a horse that was purchased for less than the bar tab at the jordan suite. came in town in a one horse trailer,with a jock
who had not seen the horse til monday the week of the race. though i love it for the little guy to pull off such a great feat. i fear that as a whole some of the big owners and midlevel guys would say why bother..in the end i think it
hurts everyone..my 2 c..hooves

Matt well put... This derby seems to have a Disney Movie written all over it!

[joeydb]

Could only have been more shocking if his name was "Glue Factory" instead of "Mine That Bird".

[sumitas]

Did I bet the race ? No . Did I handicap it at all ? Not really . I did look at the tgraph seminar after the race and it was pointed out that MTB was one of the few horses who could run a top . I think Regal Ransom was another . And there were a lot of bounce candidates .

Most of the industry hype prior to the race goes to the big name stallion runners just to hype their stud fees and factory farms. The connections of Mine That Bird are way down in New Mexico and the media simply ignored them.

I think this helps the sport . The underdog can win .