Garden City, Gazelle, & Man O' War

[Gander]

English Channel is being rested until the Oct 7th Hirsch. I dont blame Pletcher, its a great move.

Cacique is going to be a very short price in here and in my opinion isnt worth it. But I struggle to find a solid opinion on just 1 other horse. A watch race for me.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Gander

English Channel is being rested until the Oct 7th Hirsch. I dont blame Pletcher, its a great move.

Cacique is going to be a very short price in here and in my opinion isnt worth it. But I struggle to find a solid opinion on just 1 other horse. A watch race for me.

Showing Up doesn't interest?

[Gander]

Showing Up? Not at a short price in a race he wont make an easy lead. That was a cakewalk at Arlington, not to say he didnt deserve to win or wasnt tons the best, but he wont have creampuffs like Go Between chasing him this time. I would bet Cacique before I bet him.

I have to like Cacique here. He was held hard(like the rest of em) behind the Tim Man but still finished well. He has shown a liking for the course at Belmont as well. I think he should be ready for a prime effort.
Showing Up has shown talent against his contemporaries, but beating that small field of sub par grade one horses last out and beating grade one older horses are two different things. Edge to Cacique in this corner.

The Garden City is a little lacking in starpower. None of them get my blood racing.

In the Gazelle I think that both faves are vulnerable. Pine is back too quick for my taste off a very hard race, and the other one has been away too long.

Originally Posted by oracle80

I have to like Cacique here. He was held hard(like the rest of em) behind the Tim Man but still finished well. He has shown a liking for the course at Belmont as well. I think he should be ready for a prime effort.
Showing Up has shown talent against his contemporaries, but beating that small field of sub par grade one horses last out and beating grade one older horses are two different things. Edge to Cacique in this corner.

The Garden City is a little lacking in starpower. None of them get my blood racing.

In the Gazelle I think that both faves are vulnerable. Pine is back too quick for my taste off a very hard race, and the other one has been away too long.

I couldnt agree more. The Million is basically a throw out race for me for all who ran. The fractions were so slow that you really dont get a good indication how everyone ran. The closing time for Cacique was impressive in my opinion. I dont think they are going to go that slow in the Man O War. I agree with Gander and Oracle that Cacique gets it done here.

I am not thrilled with the Garden City either.

I think Pine Island rolls in the Gazelle.

[Gander]

I dont particularly care for Pine Island's running style and or the way hes been ridden. Havent figured out which yet. Anyways, this kind of style racing on dirt is going to get this horse beat in races she should win at short prices.
Teammate has had a tough time putting 2 in a row together but looms the main speed in here as I dont think Bushfire will try and outgun her, nor do I think Wild Fit is as quick. I give the edge to Teammate.

[Sightseek]

Any interesting baby races on the undercard?

[ateamstupid]

Just started looking and Saturday's opener is freaking tremendous.. Stakes quality N2X on grass to kick the card off, and there's really NO ONE you can toss.

1st Post Time (1:00)
1 Mile Turf Open 3 Year Olds And Up
Allowance - Purse:$48,000
Post # Horse Jockey Weight Claim Price Equip. Med.
1 El Prado Rob Leparoux J R 120 0 L
2 Kiss the Kid Hill C 118 0 L
3 Ever a Friend Nakatani C S 118 0 L
4 Rebuttal Prado E S 122 0 L
5 Outperformance Castellano J J 118 0 L
6 Real Quality Gomez G K 120 0 FTL
7 Planets Aligned Espinoza J L 120 0 L
8 Crimson Sun Luzzi M J 120 0 Blk-Off L
9 Yankee Master Velasquez C 118 0 L
10 River City Rebel Migliore R 118 0 L
A-Coupled: Real Quality and Crimson Sun

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by Gander

Teammate has had a tough time putting 2 in a row together but looms the main speed in here as I dont think Bushfire will try and outgun her, nor do I think Wild Fit is as quick. I give the edge to Teammate.

Really? I think she hates one-turn 8f+ races at Belmont. She didn't run well there this summer, but rebounded to her spring form at Saratoga (2 turns).

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Really? I think she hates one-turn 8f+ races at Belmont. She didn't run well there this summer, but rebounded to her spring form at Saratoga (2 turns).

That is how I see it too. Luck to those who are sticking with her though.

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Really? I think she hates one-turn 8f+ races at Belmont. She didn't run well there this summer, but rebounded to her spring form at Saratoga (2 turns).

The notion that horses like "extra turns" as opposed to say distance, is yet another reason never to pay attention to a "pedigree nut" when handicapping a race.
Pace is what matters, not turns. And if she ever gets away with a slow pace going one turn she will run well then as well.
Hocus pocus voo doo bull****(Nick Zito, before he won the Derby with a horse who didn't have "the dosage")

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Gander

Showing Up? Not at a short price in a race he wont make an easy lead. That was a cakewalk at Arlington, not to say he didnt deserve to win or wasnt tons the best, but he wont have creampuffs like Go Between chasing him this time. I would bet Cacique before I bet him.

creampuffs

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by Gander

English Channel is being rested until the Oct 7th Hirsch. I dont blame Pletcher, its a great move.

Cacique is going to be a very short price in here and in my opinion isnt worth it. But I struggle to find a solid opinion on just 1 other horse. A watch race for me.

there are 4 grade 1 winners in there. how can you say there is not one other horse? showing up could be a great horse, very similar to kittens joy, and go deputy was very impressive in his last. personally i think even relaxed gesture could win. this is the best turf race so far this year. i just wished after market was running here and not in delaware.