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Old 05-03-2009, 01:52 AM
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Agree wholeheartedly with Blackthroatedwind. If Mine That Bird DOES NOT win the race, the final time would have been in the 2:03.40 range - awful.

I'm absolutely baffled at how the track remained sloppy the entire day. There was no rain over the eight hour period from opening changes to the Derby...and it still looked like there was standing water on the track. Compared to last year - even though there was sun on Saturday, there was a TON of rain on Friday, and all through the night, and the track was fast by mid-card.
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Old 05-03-2009, 02:55 AM
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Agree wholeheartedly with Blackthroatedwind. If Mine That Bird DOES NOT win the race, the final time would have been in the 2:03.40 range - awful.

I'm absolutely baffled at how the track remained sloppy the entire day. There was no rain over the eight hour period from opening changes to the Derby...and it still looked like there was standing water on the track. Compared to last year - even though there was sun on Saturday, there was a TON of rain on Friday, and all through the night, and the track was fast by mid-card.
there were very strong winds that year that helped dry the track out. Today there was no sun and no wind
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Old 05-03-2009, 09:58 AM
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Agree wholeheartedly with Blackthroatedwind. If Mine That Bird DOES NOT win the race, the final time would have been in the 2:03.40 range - awful.

I'm absolutely baffled at how the track remained sloppy the entire day. There was no rain over the eight hour period from opening changes to the Derby...and it still looked like there was standing water on the track. Compared to last year - even though there was sun on Saturday, there was a TON of rain on Friday, and all through the night, and the track was fast by mid-card.
This will be debated for weeks no doubt, did 18 horses not show up or is it more logical to assume that 1 horse perhaps freaked in the race. Atleast in the case of Giacomo the pace and margin of the win is more readily explainable. Given there was no other route race to compare the final time with, I'm not going to come to any conclusions too quickly.
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Old 05-03-2009, 09:59 AM
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MTB is a one run closer. i'd think even if he came in sporting a 20 point higher previous beyer, he'd have gotten mostly ignored. one run closers typically don't do well in a full derby field. it all came together for him. pretty amazing really.
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Old 05-03-2009, 10:02 AM
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The pace wasn't that fast
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Old 05-03-2009, 10:05 AM
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MTB is a one run closer. i'd think even if he came in sporting a 20 point higher previous beyer, he'd have gotten mostly ignored. one run closers typically don't do well in a full derby field. it all came together for him. pretty amazing really.
Thats what makes it even more amazing. He had never been a one run closer prior to this race. He had always been within 3 lengths of the lead by the halfway call in all of his races except his maiden...even in the BC race where he got thumped.
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Old 05-03-2009, 10:16 AM
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Thats what makes it even more amazing. He had never been a one run closer prior to this race. He had always been within 3 lengths of the lead by the halfway call in all of his races except his maiden...even in the BC race where he got thumped.

i was going by what his trainer said, that the horse makes one move.
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Old 05-03-2009, 04:18 PM
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i was going by what his trainer said, that the horse makes one move.
before yesterday that one move was backwards
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before yesterday that one move was backwards

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