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Old 05-02-2009, 07:22 PM
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yeah, i heard them say that. the next northern dancer....
His breeding really isn't that bad,and he should run all day with Birdstone on top.I don't know much about his Dam,gonna look it up now.
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Old 05-02-2009, 07:23 PM
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His breeding really isn't that bad,and he should run all day with Birdstone on top.I don't know much about his Dam,gonna look it up now.
she's a smart strike, other than that....
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What makes it worse is that you can't even embrace the small time people making it big because, besides Borel, these people are dreadful.
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Old 05-02-2009, 07:28 PM
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What makes it worse is that you can't even embrace the small time people making it big because, besides Borel, these people are dreadful.
lol

not really. maybe not so polished. but if polished gives you ieah, i'll take that guy on crutches any day.
i told my husband the guy had a fancy new spittoon now.
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Mine That Bird pulled the second-biggest upset in Derby history, eclipsed only by Donerail's famous 91-1 shocker in 1913.

Mine That Bird also became the first Canadian champion juvenile to wear the roses since Sunny's Halo in 1983. The winner of the Grey S. (Can-G3), Swynford S. and Silver Deputy S. on Woodbine's Polytrack last season, he rewarded his backers with payouts of $103.20, $54 and $25.80.

Pioneerof the Nile held second narrowly, paying $8.40 and $6.40, while third-place finisher Musket Man (Yonaguska) returned $12. The exacta was worth $2,074.80, the trifecta totaled $41,500.60, and with Papa Clem (Smart Strike) in fourth, the 8-16-2-7 superfecta was good for $557,006.38.

Completing the order of finish were Chocolate Candy (Candy Ride [Arg]), Summer Bird (Birdstone), Join in the Dance (Sky Mesa), Regal Ransom (Distorted Humor), West Side Bernie (Bernstein), General Quarters (Sky Mesa), Dunkirk (Unbridled's Song), Hold Me Back (Giant's Causeway), Advice (Chapel Royal), Desert Party (Street Cry [Ire]), Mr. Hot Stuff (Tiznow), Atomic Rain (Smart Strike), Nowhere to Hide (Vindication), 7-2 favorite Friesan Fire (A.P. Indy) and Flying Private (Fusaichi Pegasus).
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friesan fire does things a bit differently...instead of finishing second like the last two years, porter/jones finish second to last.

ouch!
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friesan fire does things a bit differently...instead of finishing second like the last two years, porter/jones finish second to last.

ouch!
Not making excuses for FF, but it seemed that he was slammed hard on the break and then pinched. Never got going after that.
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Mine That Bird pulled the second-biggest upset in Derby history, eclipsed only by Donerail's famous 91-1 shocker in 1913.

Mine That Bird also became the first Canadian champion juvenile to wear the roses since Sunny's Halo in 1983. The winner of the Grey S. (Can-G3), Swynford S. and Silver Deputy S. on Woodbine's Polytrack last season, he rewarded his backers with payouts of $103.20, $54 and $25.80.

Pioneerof the Nile held second narrowly, paying $8.40 and $6.40, while third-place finisher Musket Man (Yonaguska) returned $12. The exacta was worth $2,074.80, the trifecta totaled $41,500.60, and with Papa Clem (Smart Strike) in fourth, the 8-16-2-7 superfecta was good for $557,006.38.

Completing the order of finish were Chocolate Candy (Candy Ride [Arg]), Summer Bird (Birdstone), Join in the Dance (Sky Mesa), Regal Ransom (Distorted Humor), West Side Bernie (Bernstein), General Quarters (Sky Mesa), Dunkirk (Unbridled's Song), Hold Me Back (Giant's Causeway), Advice (Chapel Royal), Desert Party (Street Cry [Ire]), Mr. Hot Stuff (Tiznow), Atomic Rain (Smart Strike), Nowhere to Hide (Vindication), 7-2 favorite Friesan Fire (A.P. Indy) and Flying Private (Fusaichi Pegasus).
OMG!
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Mine That Bird pulled the second-biggest upset in Derby history, eclipsed only by Donerail's famous 91-1 shocker in 1913.

Mine That Bird also became the first Canadian champion juvenile to wear the roses since Sunny's Halo in 1983. The winner of the Grey S. (Can-G3), Swynford S. and Silver Deputy S. on Woodbine's Polytrack last season, he rewarded his backers with payouts of $103.20, $54 and $25.80.

Pioneerof the Nile held second narrowly, paying $8.40 and $6.40, while third-place finisher Musket Man (Yonaguska) returned $12. The exacta was worth $2,074.80, the trifecta totaled $41,500.60, and with Papa Clem (Smart Strike) in fourth, the 8-16-2-7 superfecta was good for $557,006.38.

Completing the order of finish were Chocolate Candy (Candy Ride [Arg]), Summer Bird (Birdstone), Join in the Dance (Sky Mesa), Regal Ransom (Distorted Humor), West Side Bernie (Bernstein), General Quarters (Sky Mesa), Dunkirk (Unbridled's Song), Hold Me Back (Giant's Causeway), Advice (Chapel Royal), Desert Party (Street Cry [Ire]), Mr. Hot Stuff (Tiznow), Atomic Rain (Smart Strike), Nowhere to Hide (Vindication), 7-2 favorite Friesan Fire (A.P. Indy) and Flying Private (Fusaichi Pegasus).
If it wasn't for Borel and being the Kentucky Derby he would have been 250-1. Seriously. On form he was 15 lengths off of possible.
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If it wasn't for Borel and being the Kentucky Derby he would have been 250-1. Seriously. On form he was 15 lengths off of possible.
horses dont go off long anymore after 2005.
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Glad to see Summer Bird not disgrace himself, I think this horse has some talent.
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Old 05-02-2009, 07:56 PM
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If it wasn't for Borel and being the Kentucky Derby he would have been 250-1. Seriously. On form he was 15 lengths off of possible.
I'm not much of a figure player, but I sure don't see anything that would say he was fast enough to do what he did. Can say all they want 'bout Canada, but he's been too slow.
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Old 05-02-2009, 07:31 PM
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What makes it worse is that you can't even embrace the small time people making it big because, besides Borel, these people are dreadful.
I'll take them over the group from last year any day.
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What makes it worse is that you can't even embrace the small time people making it big because, besides Borel, these people are dreadful.
"small time" people gives hope to us like Dee Tee that the little guys in the sport can win! I find this group MUCH more worthy that last year's in the slick black suits.
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"small time" people gives hope to us like Dee Tee that the little guys in the sport can win! I find this group MUCH more worthy that last year's in the slick black suits.
Sadly, I'm starting to see Sightseek's point- these owners are nothing like the DeeTee crew, who are not allegedly bribing legislators and don't have a quarter of a million to spend on horses.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/67394.html

Son of a b*tch. Well, at least I can still love Calvin.

(Darn you, Sightseek, and your excellent people instincts!)
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Sadly, I'm starting to see Sightseek's point- these owners are nothing like the DeeTee crew, who are not allegedly bribing legislators and don't have a quarter of a million to spend on horses.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/67394.html

Son of a b*tch. Well, at least I can still love Calvin.

(Darn you, Sightseek, and your excellent people instincts!)
Interesting.....but, I think she was talking thier appearance and what he said in the winner's circle. I guess they do have something in common! But, Calvin's ride on SWLY at Saratoga was nowhere near as good as his Derby victories....if fact, I think he didn't really gave her a good chance that day.
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Interesting.....but, I think she was talking thier appearance and what he said in the winner's circle. I guess they do have something in common! But, Calvin's ride on SWLY at Saratoga was nowhere near as good as his Derby victories....if fact, I think he didn't really gave her a good chance that day.
You got me....I have this terrible bias against cowboy hats!
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Interesting.....but, I think she was talking thier appearance and what he said in the winner's circle. I guess they do have something in common! But, Calvin's ride on SWLY at Saratoga was nowhere near as good as his Derby victories....if fact, I think he didn't really gave her a good chance that day.
Which is why I said she had good people instincts.

I wasn't being clear about Borel- I meant that he's one of those people in the game it's easy to root for. (Though clearly I don't let silly sentiments like that factor into my wagers as my win bet was on Desert Party and see how well that worked out!)
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What makes it worse is that you can't even embrace the small time people making it big because, besides Borel, these people are dreadful.
I sure hope everyone doesn't buy into the media's need to trash these people just because they can. One guys father was doing the wheeling and dealing and is awaiting sentencing on bribery. But "small time" or not, it is a great story. Let's at least give them some time to enjoy this and give them a tip of the cap for a job very well done.
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Why do they have some nasty backstory? I did hear the trainer give credit to the former trainer, which I thought was nice.
The trainer just seems like a jerk and makes Pletcher look like Mr. Outgoing and Spontaneous.
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