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Old 05-02-2009, 07:03 PM
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Just curious what does everyone think of Pioneer of the Nile's performance today? Was it enough to end the synth/dirt debate?
Not sure, I have to watch the race again. But I though he was pretty much in the clear the whole race. Meaning he handled the track, but I'm not sure if he had to or would have handled all the mud in his face. He did run well, but he was still beaten by over 6 lengths to a horse off the New Mexico circuit. So my answer is yes and no.
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What was the final time anyhow?
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Old 05-02-2009, 07:05 PM
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Old 05-02-2009, 07:09 PM
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I think Durkin was just as shocked as anybody and probably didn't think he even had to call that name.

This proved one thing to me, I hope IWR and Quality Road get into the Preakness because I don't want anyone out of this race. What happened to FF? Stopped badly.
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Old 05-02-2009, 07:10 PM
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I think Durkin was just as shocked as anybody and probably didn't think he even had to call that name.

This proved one thing to me, I hope IWR and Quality Road get into the Preakness because I don't want anyone out of this race. What happened to FF? Stopped badly.
IWR is done IMO, the other needs months off probably.
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Old 05-02-2009, 07:10 PM
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I think Durkin was just as shocked as anybody and probably didn't think he even had to call that name.

This proved one thing to me, I hope IWR and Quality Road get into the Preakness because I don't want anyone out of this race. What happened to FF? Stopped badly.
they already said a few days ago that the preakness won't happen for QR. and, depending on what they find with revenge, i don't see him making it in two weeks with heat in his ankle today.
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Old 05-02-2009, 07:11 PM
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Durkin didn't see this horse until he was 5 lengths in front.Very poor job.And to me POTN and the others looked like a pack of tired out dogs.Too bad for the winning connections this horse is a gelding,but at least he has a good chance to keep racing instead of being retired to stud.Goodie for us!!
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Old 05-02-2009, 07:12 PM
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Durkin didn't see this horse until he was 5 lengths in front.Very poor job.And to me POTN and the others looked like a pack of tired out dogs.Too bad for the winning connections this horse is a gelding,but at least he has a good chance to keep racing instead of being retired to stud.Goodie for us!!
one good thing. but i don't know what to think about this horse going forward.
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Old 05-02-2009, 07:15 PM
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one good thing. but i don't know what to think about this horse going forward.
Supposedly this horse was Canada's two year old of the year.
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Old 05-02-2009, 07:19 PM
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Supposedly this horse was Canada's two year old of the year.
yeah, i heard them say that. the next northern dancer....
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Old 05-02-2009, 07:22 PM
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yeah, i heard them say that. the next northern dancer....
His breeding really isn't that bad,and he should run all day with Birdstone on top.I don't know much about his Dam,gonna look it up now.
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Supposedly this horse was Canada's two year old of the year.
Interesting notice he was 4/6 on polytrack and 0/2 on dirt until today with a previous lifetime best beyer of only 81. How's that for confounding stats? How did he only go off at 50/1? You can't always count on stats, beyers, historical angles. Duh?
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Interesting notice he was 4/6 on polytrack and 0/2 on dirt until today with a previous lifetime best beyer of only 81. How's that for confounding stats? How did he only go off at 50/1? You can't always count on stats, beyers, historical angles. Duh?

the colonial colony of three year olds.
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Durkin didn't see this horse until he was 5 lengths in front.Very poor job.And to me POTN and the others looked like a pack of tired out dogs.Too bad for the winning connections this horse is a gelding,but at least he has a good chance to keep racing instead of being retired to stud.Goodie for us!!
Who knows.. maybe the next "seabiscuit"
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Who knows.. maybe the next "seabiscuit"
i don't think he was a gelding.

edit~nope, just checked. sired just over 100 foals.
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Old 05-02-2009, 07:10 PM
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Not sure, I have to watch the race again. But I though he was pretty much in the clear the whole race. Meaning he handled the track, but I'm not sure if he had to or would have handled all the mud in his face. He did run well, but he was still beaten by over 6 lengths to a horse off the New Mexico circuit. So my answer is yes and no.
It's something that will come up again next year I'm certain, it's early but he looks like an early choice for the Preak, hopefully QR and IWR will be there to offer up a fair price. He was closer the pace today and he never found the best part of the track, he can run on mud, one wonders if he would have won this race if it were a fast track. The only thing certain we learned today was Mine That Bird is a mudder X10.
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