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Old 04-28-2009, 12:26 AM
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I don't know the cause or the frequency of these tragic incidents and I doubt the NTRA does either . A thorough investigation is needed into tragedies like this .
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:31 AM
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I don't know the cause or the frequency of these tragic incidents and I doubt the NTRA does either . A thorough investigation is needed into tragedies like this .

Do you know anything about thoroughbreds?
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:37 AM
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I know enough to know that incidents like this are not acceptable .
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:47 AM
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I think they should investigate as well.

The first thing they should do is question the horse that dumped the rider in the first place and ask why it ran straight into another horse.

I feel if they could just understand a horse's motivation for doing such things, they could probably talk other unruly two year olds out of making similar mistakes.
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Old 04-28-2009, 01:50 AM
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I think they should investigate as well.

The first thing they should do is question the horse that dumped the rider in the first place and ask why it ran straight into another horse.

I feel if they could just understand a horse's motivation for doing such things, they could probably talk other unruly two year olds out of making similar mistakes.

OK.

That was a good post in the face of a bad day for horse fans and lovers.
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Old 04-28-2009, 10:39 AM
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I wonder if Mike Judge found inspiration for his brilliant documentary film, "Idiocracy" by reading threads like this one.
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Old 04-28-2009, 05:14 PM
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I think they should investigate as well.

The first thing they should do is question the horse that dumped the rider in the first place and ask why it ran straight into another horse.

I feel if they could just understand a horse's motivation for doing such things, they could probably talk other unruly two year olds out of making similar mistakes.

Sad that this happened. Real shame that these things get so much bad publicity and create ill-will toward the SPORT that I love. Every one looks to blame, race cars cant dump their drivers and go off scared into other drivers like horses do. Shame. People always cheer the loose horse in races but they are freaked and don't know what to do. Most of the time it works out OK but this week bad stuff. Hoping for a safe and exciting weekend of racing without incident.
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Old 04-29-2009, 01:53 AM
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Thanks guys, things are clear as mud for me now. I guess as long as tracks keep shortening their race weeks there will be more time to space work-outs in a better manner. Or at least have all the horses go out at once in a big con-fab to get used to their surroundings. Will they put slots at the finish line too?
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Old 04-29-2009, 06:37 AM
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Thanks guys, things are clear as mud for me now. I guess as long as tracks keep shortening their race weeks there will be more time to space work-outs in a better manner. Or at least have all the horses go out at once in a big con-fab to get used to their surroundings. Will they put slots at the finish line too?
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Old 04-29-2009, 01:02 PM
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Thanks guys, things are clear as mud for me now. I guess as long as tracks keep shortening their race weeks there will be more time to space work-outs in a better manner. Or at least have all the horses go out at once in a big con-fab to get used to their surroundings. Will they put slots at the finish line too?
Short race weeks don't help. Horses train every day. They don't all go out at once but at any given time there might be 100+ horses on the track.
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:54 AM
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I know enough to know that incidents like this are not acceptable .

It's much better to criticize from strength than from weakness. You really need to spend even a little time around the racetrack.
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Do you know anything about thoroughbreds?

Or horses in general for that matter. This could've happened with just 2 horses on the track. Horses are nuts.
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Old 04-28-2009, 11:00 AM
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Or horses in general for that matter. This could've happened with just 2 horses on the track. Horses are nuts.


lol

a bit, yes. a single horse can get himself in all kinds of trouble.


those of you pissing your pants and posting in hysteria... take the # of tracks in a day, multiply that by days they run, mulitiply that by # of horses trained per day...take that # and compare it to the two bizarre recent incidents, and give me the # you get. thousands of horses train every day. THOUSANDS. and you want three at a time on the track. let's see.....3 per five minutes. that's 36 horses an hour. that's ten hours to train 360 horses. yeah, that's doable.

as for those applauding pletcher-his concern, as well as the others with derby horses, is that a crazy two year old was on the track with the crazy three year olds that are derby-bound. he suggested the stars get the first few minutes after the REN break to themselves, so that you don't have a green colt taking out one of the big guys(but don't forget, a horse you may have heard of, point given, got loose on the track-remember?). not a bad idea for derby horses, but it certainly doesn't come close to some of the suggestions (hilarious as they are) on here.


newsflash-the track is a dangerous place.
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Old 04-28-2009, 11:41 AM
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Or horses in general for that matter. This could've happened with just 2 horses on the track. Horses are nuts.
You don't even need 2, it can happen with just one that gets spooked, takes off and can run into anything. When a horse gets scared, they can be unpredictable and very hard to handle.
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:13 PM
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You don't even need 2, it can happen with just one that gets spooked, takes off and can run into anything. When a horse gets scared, they can be unpredictable and very hard to handle.

Absolutely correct. Most horses are always looking for a way to kill themselves. Big, fast bodies with small brains = trouble. I love horses though, and choose to spend my free time with them everyday, regardless of how goofy they are.
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:21 PM
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I'd like to see some of these brilliant observations in an interview on CNN explaining the tragedy after the accident is aired yet again. It's been aired it several times today.

Tell the world how the exercize riders had no clue a horse was rampaging down the track so that it hit a horse standing still from behind . Explain that one .
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:36 PM
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A lot of these observations SHOULD be included on CNN....usually on these types of things, they get in a bunch of people who seem to know absolutely NOTHING about racing or horses in general. I'd rather see an informed/knowledgable horse person comment on it. People who don't understand and realize that a scared horse is completely unpredictable and can and will do the unthinkable have no business reporting on this.
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:49 PM
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I'd like to see some of these brilliant observations in an interview on CNN explaining the tragedy after the accident is aired yet again. It's been aired it several times today.

Tell the world how the exercize riders had no clue a horse was rampaging down the track so that it hit a horse standing still from behind . Explain that one .

Yes, it would be nice if some actual experts were asked to explain the situation at least reasonably. But, of course that wouldn't fit CNN's agenda.

Surely you get this?
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Old 04-28-2009, 02:29 PM
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I'd like to see some of these brilliant observations in an interview on CNN explaining the tragedy after the accident is aired yet again. It's been aired it several times today.

Tell the world how the exercize riders had no clue a horse was rampaging down the track so that it hit a horse standing still from behind . Explain that one .
I guess you have no clue what the proper and safest response is, if you are in a group of mounted riders - on the track, in a ring, on a trail ride, at a foxhunt - and one young horse tosses it's rider and rampages out of control back towards the group.
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Old 04-29-2009, 08:37 PM
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dr. rap update from drf:


Dr. Rap on the mend

Dr. Rap, the unraced 3-year-old colt injured in a gruesome two-horse accident on Monday morning, is continuing to recuperate at the equine clinic Hagyard-Davidson McGee in Lexington, Ky., trainer David Carroll said Wednesday.

"He has radial nerve paralysis in his right shoulder," Carroll said. "It's a stinger. The next two or three days are pretty crucial. We're keeping our fingers crossed. He's getting acupuncture to try to regenerate the nerves."
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