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Old 04-23-2009, 08:57 PM
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If I had to guess it will be Hold Me Back even thought his only dirt attempt sucked but he has run very well this year and he closed well into slow fractions in the Blue Grass. But Desert Party is a good choice to possibly be the wise guy horse....I was thinking about this same thing today, glad you brought it up.
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Old 04-23-2009, 09:29 PM
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Dunkirk or Desert Party.
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Old 04-23-2009, 09:44 PM
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Haber, it just makes me wonder b/c when im at races and some horse that i figured would be 8-1 or so jumps down to like 5/2 it always makes me wonder what did i miss? Same thing with KD but i think the odds movements are a lot more volatile like a horse i figured would be 30-1 is 9-1. Just freaks me out sometimes.

ateam, what you think dunkirk's m/l then actual post time odds will be? im thinking m/l 10-1 post time 6-1.
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Old 04-23-2009, 09:58 PM
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Old 04-23-2009, 10:00 PM
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Haber, it just makes me wonder b/c when im at races and some horse that i figured would be 8-1 or so jumps down to like 5/2 it always makes me wonder what did i miss? Same thing with KD but i think the odds movements are a lot more volatile like a horse i figured would be 30-1 is 9-1. Just freaks me out sometimes.

ateam, what you think dunkirk's m/l then actual post time odds will be? im thinking m/l 10-1 post time 6-1.
I think it'll be hard for Dunkirk to go down to 6-1 since IWR, Quality Road, and PoTN (debatable I guess) will probably take more money than him.
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Old 04-23-2009, 10:06 PM
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I think it'll be hard for Dunkirk to go down to 6-1 since IWR, Quality Road, and PoTN (debatable I guess) will probably take more money than him.

I think the betting is going to be similar to the 2007 edition with the fav @ almost 5:1 ( IWR ), two others at just under 10:1, ( QR and Dunkirk ) some mid-prices, and probably 10 or 12 @ 25:1 or more
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Old 04-24-2009, 06:04 AM
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Absolutely 100% Dunkirk... My buddies in NYC who do not follow racing except on Derby day are already picking Dunkirk as the winner..
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Old 04-24-2009, 06:11 AM
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Old 04-24-2009, 06:22 AM
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Absolutely 100% Dunkirk... My buddies in NYC who do not follow racing except on Derby day are already picking Dunkirk as the winner..
i agree, i think people will be surprised when he is overbet. the guy that writes for the saratogian (brendan O'meara) keeps saying that this will be pletchers , break through. so, i know there are plenty of folks on the bandwagon. there is alot of talk about square eddie too, who i feel has no shot in the race. but , the best horse does not always win the derby anyway.
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Old 04-24-2009, 09:31 AM
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Absolutely 100% Dunkirk... My buddies in NYC who do not follow racing except on Derby day are already picking Dunkirk as the winner..


Your buddies who don't follow racing, except for Derby Days, are thus not anything close to " wise guys. "
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Old 04-23-2009, 10:08 PM
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I get ESPN the magazine, and of course they never have jack sh1t for horse racing coverage. Then they go ahead and put in something horse related in this issue and of course it's not a good story about the sport or the Derby coming up, it's about vets that have to put down horses on the track including a gruesome picture of a horse with 2 broken forelegs.
Then in a little sidebox they give their wiseguy horses.

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Old 04-24-2009, 11:14 AM
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Dunkirk or Desert Party.
The local "experts" are all over Desert Party. Asher has him winning and Byrne has him coming in 2nd.
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