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Old 04-22-2009, 11:21 PM
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That question is easy to answer.

If you like two horses that are 8-1, 10-1 and if you going to play 20 bucks anyways then I suggest you play a daily double with those two horses in the first leg and 5 horses in the next. Typically it will pay more than playing 10 bucks each to win.

95% of my bets are pick3, pick4 and sometimes DD. I would say it requires some patience but your patience will be rewarded.
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Old 04-22-2009, 11:23 PM
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That question is easy to answer.

If you like two horses that are 8-1, 10-1 and if you going to play 20 bucks anyways then I suggest you play a daily double with those two horses in the first leg and 5 horses in the next. Typically it will pay more than playing 10 bucks each to win.

95% of my bets are pick3, pick4 and sometimes DD. I would say it requires some patience but your patience will be rewarded.
Apparently not that easy to answer. . .
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Old 04-22-2009, 11:26 PM
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Apparently not that easy to answer. . .
How would you play it?
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Old 04-22-2009, 11:30 PM
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I'd need PPs and prices to tell you that. Every situation is different. For you to suggest that OP should play daily doubles 2 X 5 w/o considering any relevant factors shows you don't really understand the fundamentals of betting.
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Old 04-23-2009, 01:48 AM
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I'd need PPs and prices to tell you that. Every situation is different. For you to suggest that OP should play daily doubles 2 X 5 w/o considering any relevant factors shows you don't really understand the fundamentals of betting.
Of course. Just like Ateam said: The DD approach should be balanced wager and not a straight 2 dollar wager. As far as the situation is presented by the poster is exactly the way i will approach it.

I will indeed compare my DD probables to my win bet ROI and see if its a worthy bet.

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Old 04-23-2009, 01:54 AM
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Go with your gut.
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Old 04-23-2009, 02:24 AM
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Of course. Just like Ateam said: The DD approach should be balanced wager and not a straight 2 dollar wager. As far as the situation is presented by the poster is exactly the way i will approach it.

I will indeed compare my DD probables to my win bet ROI and see if its a worthy bet.
I must've missed the part where he mentioned a second race in which he likes five horses. . .
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Old 04-23-2009, 02:38 AM
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I must've missed the part where he mentioned a second race in which he likes five horses. . .
I at least gave him my answer. Other than criticize other peoples responses, I really dont see you providing any insight to this topic.
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Old 04-23-2009, 05:37 AM
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$20.......5 exacta 1-2/1-2-3
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I almost never bet two to win, but I don't necessarily disagree with the practice of doing it. If the price is right, bet them. The Sartain guys were famous for dutching win bets and created a whole movement of play that did just that by winning an extremely high percentage of races. You would really have to hit big percentages to cover the lost ticket.

The example of boxing and wheeling exotics is a good analogy. If the payout is right, you can absorb the cost of losing tickets and still come out ahead.
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That question is easy to answer.

If you like two horses that are 8-1, 10-1 and if you going to play 20 bucks anyways then I suggest you play a daily double with those two horses in the first leg and 5 horses in the next. Typically it will pay more than playing 10 bucks each to win.

95% of my bets are pick3, pick4 and sometimes DD. I would say it requires some patience but your patience will be rewarded.
Doubles are a good approach (especially if there's a vulnerable favorite you're trying to beat), but playing a straight up $2 wheel in this fashion makes no sense. If I decide to play a 2x5 double, I'll split it up to maximize value in response to the probables, i.e. if there's a $40 probable and a $200 probable, I'll play the first one for $5 and the second one for $1.

After adding up all of the double costs, if the desired ROI of the double is less than that of a win bet on the two horses, I'll make the win bets or roll the dice and stretch it into a Pick 3.

Basically what I'm saying is I don't like to do 'flat' bets. Even in your $10 win on each scenario, it makes little sense if you think the horses have equal chances and are 8-1 and 10-1. $11 win on the 8-1 and $9 win on the 10-1 would guarantee you $99 regardless of the winner.
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Old 04-23-2009, 02:04 AM
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Doubles are a good approach (especially if there's a vulnerable favorite you're trying to beat), but playing a straight up $2 wheel in this fashion makes no sense. If I decide to play a 2x5 double, I'll split it up to maximize value in response to the probables, i.e. if there's a $40 probable and a $200 probable, I'll play the first one for $5 and the second one for $1.

After adding up all of the double costs, if the desired ROI of the double is less than that of a win bet on the two horses, I'll make the win bets or roll the dice and stretch it into a Pick 3.

Basically what I'm saying is I don't like to do 'flat' bets. Even in your $10 win on each scenario, it makes little sense if you think the horses have equal chances and are 8-1 and 10-1. $11 win on the 8-1 and $9 win on the 10-1 would guarantee you $99 regardless of the winner.
I agree.
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Old 04-23-2009, 07:51 AM
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That question is easy to answer.

If you like two horses that are 8-1, 10-1 and if you going to play 20 bucks anyways then I suggest you play a daily double with those two horses in the first leg and 5 horses in the next. Typically it will pay more than playing 10 bucks each to win.

95% of my bets are pick3, pick4 and sometimes DD. I would say it requires some patience but your patience will be rewarded.
i agree with you, even though someone else gave you crap for your answer. play the double or pic's. with 8-1 or 10-1 in the first leg its a nice score. of course you have to handicap some more but you are getting value for your 20 bucks. personally, my biggest tickets come in pic 3's. but i love doubles too. why settle for 70 or 80 bucks when that 8 or 10 to 1 shot could bring way more?
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