Current Derby Field

[justindew]

Originally Posted by Scurlogue Champ

1. Understood
2. Doesn't matter
3. Closed better than anyone into the bias (Well Armed sucks)
4. Debatable
5. BS... Who have any of them beaten? They are a bunch of unproven three-year-olds. The "Who Did He Beat" defense has to come after a horse has had a few campaigns.

Pioneerof the Nile has beaten everyone he has faced since December, including...

-The winner of the Gotham, Wood, and probably Derby fave, I Want Revenge.

-The winner of the Arkansas Derby, Papa Clem.

-The winner of the El Camino Real Derby and the California Derby, Chocolate Candy.

-Bittel Road.

[brockguy]

Another positive if you want to look at it is that Desert Party has run 3 times in Dubai. I believe that Godolphin's main Derby hopes usually raced either once or twice in Dubai before running in the Derby. You could at least argue Desert Party has the race conditioning that you seem to need (debatable point in itself!)

He has also won on dirt unlike some other candidates!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by justindew

Pioneerof the Nile has beaten everyone he has faced since December, including...

-The winner of the Gotham, Wood, and probably Derby fave, I Want Revenge.

-The winner of the Arkansas Derby, Papa Clem.

-The winner of the El Camino Real Derby and the California Derby, Chocolate Candy.

-Bittel Road.

whoopie

you're overrating the win by papa in the arkansas. i want revenge won on dirt, and lost on synthetic. how that boosts a horse who has never run on dirt and has only run/won on synthetic, heading into a dirt race, i don't know.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by justindew

Pioneerof the Nile has beaten everyone he has faced since December, including...

-The winner of the Gotham, Wood, and probably Derby fave, I Want Revenge.

-The winner of the Arkansas Derby, Papa Clem.

-The winner of the El Camino Real Derby and the California Derby, Chocolate Candy.

-Bittel Road.

Bittle Road?

You left off Lime Rickey as well.

[Danzig]

and friesan fire beat giant oak. i think i have my exacta. the 'who beat a causeway colt' angle. someone write this down.

[Danzig]

but then i'd have to use general quarters....bah
forget it.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Bittle Road?

You left off Lime Rickey as well.

Inside joke, dipwad.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by justindew

Inside joke, dipwad.

Yes, wasn't Bittle Road one of your top Derby prospects going into this year?

Coming from a guy with a blog on Kentuckyderby.com I would expect more.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Yes, wasn't Bittle Road one of your top Derby prospects going into this year?

Coming from a guy with a blog on Kentuckyderby.com I would expect more.

But I thought any idiot with a computer could write a blog.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by justindew

But I thought any idiot with a computer could write a blog.

Not just any idiot, it has to be a special idiot. I think you have reached that level.

Anyways, please answer the question.

Did you really think coming into this year that Bittle Road was going to be a top Derby contender ?

[justindew]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Not just any idiot, it has to be a special idiot. I think you have reached that level.

Anyways, please answer the question.

Did you really think coming into this year that Bittle Road was going to be a top Derby contender ?

If you had bothered to read the accompanying comments that went with my first Derby Top 20 list, you would know that the list was based on Wynn Future Odds as well as my opinion of each horse's likelihood of Derby victory. At the time, I believe Bittel Road was around 100-1 or something. So, considering he ran a decent 4th in what has proven to be a key race, yes, I thought he was the 4th-best choice for a wager at the time. I also had Big Drama 2nd and Brother Keith 5th.

At the end of the day, there is little doubt that few people here respect my opinion, which does not bother me in the least. Yet according to the poll that was taken in that other thread, more people think you are an idiot than think I am an idiot. How does that make you feel?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Yes, wasn't Bittle Road one of your top Derby prospects going into this year?

Coming from a guy with a blog on Kentuckyderby.com I would expect more.

How can you bash a guy for projecting a horse as a contender in January that hasn't progressed? I guess you have a futures ticket that you bought in December on the winner.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by jms62

How can you bash a guy for projecting a horse as a contender in January that hasn't progressed? I guess you have a futures ticket that you bought in December on the winner.

Dude....the same guy had Brother Keith at # 5. At least Bittle Road won races on grass, although last time I checked the Kentucky Derby was run on dirt.

I don't play the Derby futures, I think they are a horrendous bet when you take into consideration risk vs reward. Unless you are getting huge odds (25-1 or more) imho, they are a sucker bet.