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04-21-2009, 02:00 PM
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I must have an imposter of CHOCOLATE CANDY on my desktop because he sure isn't gray. Maybe you were looking at DUNKIRK.
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04-21-2009, 02:10 PM
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(Don't know why I confused it in with the Choc. Candy follow up...) 
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04-21-2009, 02:42 PM
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04-21-2009, 07:42 PM
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 Is it possible for a horse like PotN to work as well as he did and have an issue with the surface on race day or is there a point where the work is actually indicative? It seems like excuses from synthetic horses happen every year where we think things are gonna maybe work out and then on the day, not so much. Could it just be that they handled it just fine as their works suggested and weren't that good in the Derby on their own merit/lackthereof? Does it also matter that they soup it up for the big day versus this work where it looks like the surface just got slower over the day?
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04-21-2009, 08:04 PM
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didn't curlin have some really good works over the turf?
also seem to recall hard spun had some really good works at oaklawn, and then ran very poorly in the southwest stakes. porter and jones were lavish in their praise, and then he finished fourth and they did a 180, saying he didn't like the track. that after they said he loved the track. go figure.
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04-21-2009, 08:07 PM
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Chic Anderson thought Prince Thou Art looked great....until deep stretch. To suggest that Pioneer of the Nile " answered all questions " about his ability to handle the dirt with his work today is a pretty surprising thing to do. Come on, turf horses work well on the dirt all the time, but you can only tell for certain if a horse will handle the dirt if he ( or she ) is under raceday pressures. I'm not saying he won't handle the surface.....but I'm shocked that anybody would say he is certain to after today's stroll.
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Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB
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04-21-2009, 08:27 PM
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04-21-2009, 08:30 PM
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Some of these horses in the next tier have to move up to 20 to one if the Big four are all under 8-1. Don't they. I will bet Desert Part at 20-1, not 12-1.
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04-21-2009, 08:32 PM
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6:1 seems like a dramatic underlay to me....but honestly, I don't want to soil this fine thread by turning it into, yet another, anti-POTN thread.
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04-22-2009, 08:03 AM
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Exactly....Same thing for a dirt horse working over the poly, or an off track.
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04-21-2009, 09:35 PM
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04-22-2009, 08:10 AM
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04-22-2009, 08:11 AM
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Just for what it's worth, all things considered, Colonel John's Derby wasn't all bad last year, was it?
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04-22-2009, 08:37 AM
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04-21-2009, 02:44 PM
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04-21-2009, 02:53 PM
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go to the whip !!
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04-21-2009, 08:11 PM
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