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Old 04-20-2009, 10:30 PM
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I consider myself liberal but i dont think anyone that actually looked at that stimulus could come away without questioning some of the pork. I have said time and again the biggest roadblocks to Obama's success would come from within his own party.

I applaud the president's iniatives. Might they fail? Sure. Do I agree with the lack of fiscal responsibility? Sure. But is the overall vision a step toward a better future?

Regardless of who was to blame, and I have no interest in debating that for the 1,000,000th time, there is no question that Obama walked into a heaping pile of smoldering crap on multiple fronts. Whether his plans work or not remains to be seen.

We are in a crisis situation. The markets are/were teetering on the precipice. Now is not the time to let markets take care of themselves.
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:34 PM
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I consider myself liberal but i dont think anyone that actually looked at that stimulus could come away without questioning some of the pork. I have said time and again the biggest roadblocks to Obama's success would come from within his own party.

I applaud the president's iniatives. Might they fail? Sure. Do I agree with the lack of fiscal responsibility? Sure. But is the overall vision a step toward a better future?

Regardless of who was to blame, and I have no interest in debating that for the 1,000,000th time, there is no question that Obama walked into a heaping pile of smoldering crap on multiple fronts. Whether his plans work or not remains to be seen.

We are in a crisis situation. The markets are/were teetering on the precipice. Now is not the time to let markets take care of themselves.
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:42 PM
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Bob, my friend. The wheels of socialism were set in motion long before last november. Rebuplicans don't want to face the fact that Comrade Bush was in charge when Washington started determining how much CEO's were getting paid.
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Old 04-21-2009, 12:00 AM
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Bob, my friend. The wheels of socialism were set in motion long before last november. Rebuplicans don't want to face the fact that Comrade Bush was in charge when Washington started determining how much CEO's were getting paid.
Yep again it's all Bushies fault. He started the fall into socialism and Obama is providing a parachute to make a soft landing. I guess throwing all our money away will slow down the desent as well. If it works out we can all be one big mediocre world with no religion and little ambition. Nirvana!!!

We can then decide horse race results based on need rather than competition. Poor guys like Jeff Mullins can finally be 'understood' and will be given a win so as not to be tempted to violate rules.
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Old 04-21-2009, 12:10 AM
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Yep again it's all Bushies fault. He started the fall into socialism and Obama is providing a parachute to make a soft landing. I guess throwing all our money away will slow down the desent as well. If it works out we can all be one big mediocre world with no religion and little ambition. Nirvana!!!

We can then decide horse race results based on need rather than competition. Poor guys like Jeff Mullins can finally be 'understood' and will be given a win so as not to be tempted to violate rules.
LOL. Didnt say anything was anyone's fault. All i said was that we were socialist long before Obama got into office and we've been heading this way for a long time.

This isnt so much about religion or jeff mullins as it is about where we are and where we are headed as a society. Just as we can't spend our way out of our current problems we certainly couldn't continue to borrow our way out of the inevitable.
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Old 04-21-2009, 01:13 AM
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LOL. Didnt say anything was anyone's fault. All i said was that we were socialist long before Obama got into office and we've been heading this way for a long time.

This isnt so much about religion or jeff mullins as it is about where we are and where we are headed as a society. Just as we can't spend our way out of our current problems we certainly couldn't continue to borrow our way out of the inevitable.
So on one hand Bush's policies were left leaning (socialist) yet they were also too right (free market economy)?
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Old 04-21-2009, 01:30 AM
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So on one hand Bush's policies were left leaning (socialist) yet they were also too right (free market economy)?
Crazy isnt it? He spent like a socialist and regulated and taxed the markets like a capitolist. Privatized profits and nationalized debt. Until the whole thing really started to cave...

Even nero eventually had to put down the fiddle.

But who said anything about Bush? The only thing i said about him was that he was in office when washington began to dictate CEO salaries.
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:35 PM
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