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Old 04-20-2009, 07:40 AM
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The report in question does not call returning veterans potential terrorists. The report is public. Anyone can read the original for themselves.

Certainly helps showcase the veracity and reliability of certain media outlets. And how some people will believe anything they are told.
Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said Wednesday that she was briefed before the release of a controversial intelligence assessment and that she stands by the report, which lists returning veterans among terrorist risks to the U.S.

Enough said....... and now with Obama maintaining electronic medical records these potential terrorists can be watched closely. So Obama and Co. can enjoy the amazing caribean dancers. I think if Sadam was still alive he and Obama could have been B/F's.

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009...ing-extremism/
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:43 AM
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Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said Wednesday that she was briefed before the release of a controversial intelligence assessment and that she stands by the report, which lists returning veterans among terrorist risks to the U.S.

Enough said....... and now with Obama maintaining electronic medical records these potential terrorists can be watched closely. So Obama and Co. can enjoy the amazing caribean dancers. I think if Sadam was still alive he and Obama could have been B/F's.

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009...ing-extremism/

The report, which as Riot said, you can actually read for yourself does not do any such thing.

It points out, which Napolitano has repeated ad nauseum since this report came out, that returning veterans are attractive to rightwing extremists because they possess certain skills and capabilities from their time in the military and are therefore one of the groups of people that the extremist groups will target for recruitment. This is actually not much "news" to anyone, at all. Quite obvious really, so not quite sure why everyone's up in arms...oh wait, it was an opportunity for fake outrage involving the word 'veterans,' so of course you guys can't pass it up.

It also says that there is data to show that some disgruntled vets joined white supremacist groups upon returning from war.

It does not say watch out all veterans are going to kill you and are likely to be terrorists, which is what you, Michelle Malkin, every other wingnut with a grudge would have us believe.

But you'd probably have to read it with an open mind to know that, and I may be asking a lot there. Intellectual honesty is in short supply on the right these days.
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:45 AM
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Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said Wednesday that she was briefed before the release of a controversial intelligence assessment and that she stands by the report,

which lists returning veterans among terrorist risks to the U.S.

Enough said.......


LOL. News outlet slanting is the original problem. Napolitano didn't say the latter, italicized part!

The report on domestic terrorism actually says (if one would read it themselves) that right-wing groups are becoming more active, and that returning vets that do not assimilate well back into society could be targeted by these domestic terrorist groups for recruitment due to their knowledge and skills.

Is the above calling returning vets terrorists? Obviously not.

But in the blatherings of a very few right-wing editorial ultra-cons lacking reading comprehension, they read that differently, and they started the silly "the report calls our vets terrorists!" nonsense.

The actual content also apparently doesn't matter to the lazier media outlets that picked up those ultra-con accusations, then keep repeating them. Rather than reading the report themselves and presenting what it says factually. That would be so ... boring, to present the truth.

Maybe someone should give these anti-American folks, those that lie about our government, and repeatedly attack and disrepect our government and our President, an "American spanking"!
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LOL. News outlet slanting is the original problem. Reno didn't say the italicized part!

The report on domestic terrorism actually says (if one would read it themselves) that right-wing groups are becoming more active, and that returning vets that do not assimilate well back into society could be targeted by these domestic terrorist groups for recruitment due to their knowledge and skills.

Is the above calling returning vets terrorists? Obviously not.

But in the blatherings of a very few right-wing editorial ultra-cons lacking reading comprehension, they read that differently, and they started the silly "the report calls our vets terrorists!" nonsense.

The actual content also apparently doesn't matter to the lazier media outlets that picked up those ultra-con accusations, then keep repeating them. Rather than reading the report themselves and presenting what it says factually. That would be so ... boring, to present the truth.

Maybe someone should give these anti-American folks, those that lie about our government, and repeatedly attack and disrepect our government and our President, an "American spanking"!
Turns out I could have saved myself some typing
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Old 04-20-2009, 09:06 AM
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Turns out I could have saved myself some typing
Naw, your typing kept me from thinking I was in a weird Republican Alice In Wonderland
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The Federal Bureau of Investigation earlier this year launched a nationwide operation targeting white supremacists and "militia/sovereign-citizen extremist groups," including a focus on veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan, according to memos sent from bureau headquarters to field offices.

Nothing like a warm welcome to returning troops.

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The Federal Bureau of Investigation earlier this year launched a nationwide operation targeting white supremacists and "militia/sovereign-citizen extremist groups," including a focus on veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan, according to memos sent from bureau headquarters to field offices.

Nothing like a warm welcome to returning troops.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123992665198727459.html
Ok, I got it.

You're doing this to get a rise of me and Bob and Riot. It can only be that, because I've hung out with you too many times, and know that you're way too smart to be doing this cherry-picking and actually mean it.

Obviously, not a single one of your quotes has come from the report itself, which says plenty. The report is a big picture item, and you're taking opinions of single sentences which completely contradict the actual purpose of the report so you can do this veterans high horse routine.
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Ok, I got it.

You're doing this to get a rise of me and Bob and Riot. It can only be that, because I've hung out with you too many times, and know that you're way too smart to be doing this cherry-picking and actually mean it.

Obviously, not a single one of your quotes has come from the report itself, which says plenty. The report is a big picture item, and you're taking opinions of single sentences which completely contradict the actual purpose of the report so you can do this veterans high horse routine.
No to the contrary, 'the report' is just one example of the 'loathing of the military' policy started by Clinton. Al Gore tried to throw out absentee ballots cast by active, deployed military personal and now Obama and Co are actually investigating them.
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No to the contrary, 'the report' is just one example of the 'loathing of the military' policy started by Clinton. Al Gore tried to throw out absentee ballots cast by active, deployed military personal and now Obama and Co are actually investigating them.
Ok, so you're saying you obviously haven't read the report.

Got it.

There is no other way one could be so incredibly intellectually dishonest about this.

Unless, of course, your name was Michelle Malkin...and then at least you'd be getting paid for doing so.
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You're doing this to get a rise of me and Bob and Riot. It can only be that, because I've hung out with you too many times, and know that you're way too smart to be doing this cherry-picking and actually mean it.
When the conclusion doesn't fit, check the premise.
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