Gomez To Announce His Mount

[justindew]

Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell

Don't delete this sarcastic remark after the Derby.

Not to mention Chocolate Candy is probably the 3rd-best horse POTN has beaten this year.

I'm sure stonegossard is about 5 seconds away from reminding everyone that I said the economy was "not that bad" a year ago. But no matter how dumb of me that was, saying POTN has beaten horrendous horses this year is as asinine a statement as I have seen in a long time.

It's almost as if he's only watched one race all year. And say what you want about the SA Derby field, but it's going to produce three Derby starters.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by justindew

Not to mention Chocolate Candy is probably the 3rd-best horse POTN has beaten this year.

I'm sure stonegossard is about 5 seconds away from reminding everyone that I said the economy was "not that bad" a year ago. But no matter how dumb of me that was, saying POTN has beaten horrendous horses this year is as asinine a statement as I have seen in a long time.

It's almost as if he's only watched one race all year. And say what you want about the SA Derby field, but it's going to produce three Derby starters.

If he wanted to say the fields weren't that good and say that you can't compare what IWR and Papa Clem did in those races to what they have done after because they are better dirt horses, I wouldn't agree but I'd at least kind of understand. But he mentioned that the fields weren't that good in his argument of why Gomez made the wrong choice between Dunkirk and Pioneer and in comparing the fields the two of them have beaten, that makes the statement rather stupid.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

If he wanted to say the fields weren't that good and say that you can't compare what IWR and Papa Clem did in those races to what they have done after because they are better dirt horses, I wouldn't agree but I'd at least kind of understand. But he mentioned that the fields weren't that good in his argument of why Gomez made the wrong choice between Dunkirk and Pioneer and in comparing the fields the two of them have beaten, that makes the statement rather stupid.

Please....he barely lost to Quality Road on a speed favoring track. QR had a MUCH easier trip that day, and Dunkirk still gave him a run for his money. POTN beat IWR, who is a very nice horse, no doubt. Is he better than Quality Road, not so sure. Papa Clem beat an injured horse who was not gonna get the distance at OP, and behind that a bunch of real bad horses.

In my opinion Gomez chose a horse who is unproven on dirt and will be a question mark getting the distance. That's where I believe he made the mistake.


Hey, I hope the betting public hammers POTN,IWR, and Papa Clem. That way I will get a good price on Dunkirk.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Please....he barely lost to Quality Road on a speed favoring track. QR had a MUCH easier trip that day, and Dunkirk still gave him a run for his money. POTN beat IWR, who is a very nice horse, no doubt. Is he better than Quality Road, not so sure. Papa Clem beat an injured horse who was not gonna get the distance at OP, and behind that a bunch of real bad horses.

In my opinion Gomez chose a horse who is unproven on dirt and will be a question mark getting the distance. That's where I believe he made the mistake.


Hey, I hope the betting public hammers POTN,IWR, and Papa Clem. That way I will get a good price on Dunkirk.

I think if you had been able to make this argument to Anderson and Gomez, they likely would have landed on Dunkirk. I doubt they considered any of the above.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by justindew

I think if you had been able to make this argument to Anderson and Gomez, they likely would have landed on Dunkirk. I doubt they considered any of the above.

Ok genius. Where does Gomez plan on riding most of the year? If you can figure that out then the next question. Who has a bigger presence in that area ?

Ya think that had something to do with his decision ?

[justindew]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Ok genius. Where does Gomez plan on riding most of the year? If you can figure that out then the next question. Who has a bigger presence in that area ?

Ya think that had something to do with his decision ?

Who cares? The point is that you said POTN had beaten "horrendous" fields this year. A statement you later retracted.

As usual, the longer you run your mouth, the more you confuse yourself.

[HaloWishingwell]

As for quality of fields , who knows? They haven't raced long enough to make that decision and with so many preps all over the country the talent gets divided everywhere until they finally meet in the Triple Crown and beyond.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by justindew

Who cares? The point is that you said POTN had beaten "horrendous" fields this year. A statement you later retracted.

As usual, the longer you run your mouth, the more you confuse yourself.

His last 2 races were against horrendous fields. I stand by that genius.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Ok genius. Where does Gomez plan on riding most of the year? If you can figure that out then the next question. Who has a bigger presence in that area ?

Ya think that had something to do with his decision ?

Southern California

Bob bafferet

yes

[blackthroatedwind]

Gomez is coming to NY after the Derby and staying into Belmont in the Fall. He may go to California for the Oak Tree meet. He will be in Saratoga.

[ezgoerbaby]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Please....he barely lost to Quality Road on a speed favoring track. QR had a MUCH easier trip that day, and Dunkirk still gave him a run for his money. POTN beat IWR, who is a very nice horse, no doubt. Is he better than Quality Road, not so sure. Papa Clem beat an injured horse who was not gonna get the distance at OP, and behind that a bunch of real bad horses.

In my opinion Gomez chose a horse who is unproven on dirt and will be a question mark getting the distance. That's where I believe he made the mistake.


Hey, I hope the betting public hammers POTN,IWR, and Papa Clem. That way I will get a good price on Dunkirk.

Dunkirk is going to take a ton of money and he is going to need EVERYTHING to go perfectly. I question Dunkirk's ability to get 1 1/4, especially with the way he looked after the FL derby...looked like he was going to collapse. I will admit though...he's a game SOB...he kept on trying.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by ezgoerbaby

Dunkirk is going to take a ton of money and he is going to need EVERYTHING to go perfectly. I question Dunkirk's ability to get 1 1/4, especially with the way he looked after the FL derby...looked like he was going to collapse. I will admit though...he's a game SOB...he kept on trying.

How do you figure Dunkirk will take a lot of money? Based on Pletcher's record in the derby ?

While will he need everything to go perfectly? Not sure what you are getting at. I think the other 19 horses would also need things to go their way to win.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

How do you figure Dunkirk will take a lot of money? Based on Pletcher's record in the derby ?

While will he need everything to go perfectly? Not sure what you are getting at. I think the other 19 horses would also need things to go their way to win.

I think my work is done here.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by justindew

I think my work is done here.

Back into hiding already?

That didn't take too long.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by justindew

I think my work is done here.

I was being sarcastic you moron I am sorry you didn't catch on. I have to dumb things down when posting to you I guess.

[ezgoerbaby]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

How do you figure Dunkirk will take a lot of money? Based on Pletcher's record in the derby ?

While will he need everything to go perfectly? Not sure what you are getting at. I think the other 19 horses would also need things to go their way to win.

Basically because he's a hyped horse. He may win...but I'd bet that he doesn't...I think he probably has a hell of a shot in the Preakness...I don't like his lack of foundation...they rushed this horse in, and yes, he will need everything to go perfectly, if he gets stopped in the middle of a run, I don't think he will be able to recover as well as some of the other horses...he's not frigging Alysheba.

[santana]

Originally Posted by ezgoerbaby

Basically because he's a hyped horse. He may win...but I'd bet that he doesn't...I think he probably has a hell of a shot in the Preakness...I don't like his lack of foundation...they rushed this horse in, and yes, he will need everything to go perfectly, if he gets stopped in the middle of a run, I don't think he will be able to recover as well as some of the other horses...he's not frigging Alysheba.

Now there is a name i have not seen in a loooong time.
How have you been?

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Please....he barely lost to Quality Road on a speed favoring track. QR had a MUCH easier trip that day, and Dunkirk still gave him a run for his money. POTN beat IWR, who is a very nice horse, no doubt. Is he better than Quality Road, not so sure. Papa Clem beat an injured horse who was not gonna get the distance at OP, and behind that a bunch of real bad horses.

In my opinion Gomez chose a horse who is unproven on dirt and will be a question mark getting the distance. That's where I believe he made the mistake.


Hey, I hope the betting public hammers POTN,IWR, and Papa Clem. That way I will get a good price on Dunkirk.

None of this changes the fact that Dunkirk has not come close to beating a better field of horses than Pioneer has. The one horse of quality that he faced, he lost to. The horses behind him that day and in his first two wins weren't better than what Pioneer has faced. Now, if you wanted to compare what Pioneer has defeated to what Quality Road has defeated, your argument would have more relevance. But to compare it to what Dunkirk has beaten is kinda....no, very.....stupid.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

None of this changes the fact that Dunkirk has not come close to beating a better field of horses than Pioneer has. The one horse of quality that he faced, he lost to. The horses behind him that day and in his first two wins weren't better than what Pioneer has faced. Now, if you wanted to compare what Pioneer has defeated to what Quality Road has defeated, your argument would have more relevance. But to compare it to what Dunkirk has beaten is kinda....no, very.....stupid.

Your point about the horses that Dunkirk has ACTUALLY beaten makes good sense. If he gets up and beats Quality Road then the argument is valid.

Dunkirk is faster, has won on dirt, and I believe will love the 1 1/4. POTN is slow, never ran on dirt, and after watching his last 2 races I have a feeling he will move way too early in the Derby and flatten out.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by justindew

Not to mention Chocolate Candy is probably the 3rd-best horse POTN has beaten this year.

I'm sure stonegossard is about 5 seconds away from reminding everyone that I said the economy was "not that bad" a year ago. But no matter how dumb of me that was, saying POTN has beaten horrendous horses this year is as asinine a statement as I have seen in a long time.

It's almost as if he's only watched one race all year. And say what you want about the SA Derby field, but it's going to produce three Derby starters.

Nah Justin, you embarassed yourself enough with that whole ordeal. Nothing I can say can even come close to that. Maybe I will take a sledgehammer to my head 10 to 15 times and then post something. Even then it will be tough to match your brilliance from last year.

Actually his Robert Lewis race was against some nice horses. My bad. But his last two were against some real duds.