John White........

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by Ogygian

I think John White should change his name to John of the Nile...I just finished listening to Tuesday's show and I have to preface my upcoming comment by saying I enjoy John's segment every week, but this last month is painful to listen to. In some way he compares every single horse or scenario to Pioneer of the Nile. Please John, you are beating this poor horse to death. Steve wants to talk Arkansas Derby, he ends up on POTN, Steve wants to talk Bluegrass, he ends of on POTN. We get it John, please next week, I am challenging you to make it through your segment without talking about or comparing horses to POTN. I also have a question of how not racing over a dirt track is not a "strike" against POTN???? Doesn't make sense...
Steve, next Tuesday for Thoroughbred Legacy I think Bob should feature POTN's career...
John, I love ya, but you are sounding like a broken record every week, there are at least 19 other horses that can be discussed with thorough detail without talking about POTN. All I am asking is for one week...

Amen!

[cabvmd]

Found this
Prep Races
‹ Pre-Derby CampaignsupSires ›Listed below are some prominent Kentucky Derby prep races and the results of eventual Derby winners who ran in them.

Arkansas Derby
2004 Smarty Jones 1st
1996 Grindstone 2nd
1992 Lil E. Tee 2nd
1983 Sunny's Halo 1st
Blue Grass
1995 Thunder Gulch UNP
1993 Sea Hero UNP
1991 Strike the Gold 1st
1990 Unbridled 3rd
1987 Alysheba 3rd*
1979 Spectacular Bid 1st
1972 Riva Ridge 1st
1970 Dust Commander 1st
1968 Forward Pass 1st
1967 Proud Clarion 2nd
1965 Lucky Debonair 1st
1964 Northern Dancer 1st
1963 Chateaugay 1st
1962 Decidedly 2nd
1959 Tomy Lee 1st
1942 Shut Out 1st
1941 Whirlaway 2nd
1926 Bubbling Over 1st
1921 Behave Yourself 2nd
1913 Donerail 2nd
1911 Meridian 2nd
1903 Judge Himes 3rd

Flamingo
1979 Spectacular Bid 1st
1977 Seattle Slew 1st
1975 Foolish Pleasure 1st
1974 Cannonade UNP
1968 Forward Pass UNP
1964 Northern Dancer 1st
1961 Carry Back 1st
1958 Tim Tam 1st
1957 Iron Liege 3rd
1956 Needles 1st
1951 Count Turf UNP
1948 Citation 1st
1938 Lawrin 1st

Florida Derby
2001 Monarchos 1st
1995 Thunder Gulch 1st
1994 Go for Gin UNP
1991 Strike the Gold 2nd
1990 Unbridled 1st
1984 Swale 1st
1981 Pleasant Colony UNP
1979 Spectacular Bid 1st
1975 Foolish Pleasure 3rd
1974 Cannonade 2nd
1968 Forward Pass 1st
1966 Kauai King UNP
1964 Northern Dancer 1st
1961 Carry Back 1st
1960 Venetian Way 2nd
1958 Tim Tam 1st
1957 Iron Liege 3rd
1956 Needles 1st
1953 Dark Star UNP

Fountain of Youth
1995 Thunder Gulch 1st
1994 Go for Gin 2nd
1990 Unbridled 3rd
1984 Swale 3rd
1981 Pleasant Colony 2nd
1979 Spectacular Bid 1st
1968 Forward Pass UNP**
1966 Kauai King 1st
1961 Carry Back 3rd
1958 Tim Tam 1st
Gotham
1973 Secretariat 1st

Illinois Derby
2002 War Emblem 1st

Hutcheson
1984 Swale 1st
1979 Spectacular Bid 1st
1966 Kauai King 2nd

Jim Beam
1992 Lil E. Tee 1st

Lexington
1999 Charismatic 1st

Louisiana Derby
2003 Funny Cide 3rd
1996 Grindstone 1st
1924 Black Gold 1st

Rebel
1983 Sunny's Halo 1st

San Felipe
2000 Fusaichi Pegasus 1st
1998 Real Quiet 2nd
1997 Silver Charm 2nd
1989 Sunday Silence 1st
1987 Alysheba 2nd
1978 Affirmed 1st
1965 Lucky Debonair 2nd
1959 Tomy Lee 2nd
1954 Determine 1st
1947 Jet Pilot UNP

Santa Anita Derby
2005 Giacomo 4th
1998 Real Quiet 2nd
1997 Silver Charm 2nd
1989 Sunday Silence 1st
1988 Winning Colors 1st
1986 Ferdinand 3rd
1982 Gato Del Sol UNP
1978 Affirmed 1st
1969 Majestic Prince 1st
1965 Lucky Debonair 1st
1955 Swaps 1st
1954 Determine 1st
1952 Hill Gail 1st
1940 Gallahadion UNP

San Vicente
1997 Silver Charm 1st
1976 Bold Forbes 3rd
1969 Majestic Prince 1st
1965 Lucky Debonair 1st
1959 Tomy Lee 2nd
1955 Swaps 1st
1954 Determine 2nd
1952 Hill Gail 1st
1940 Gallahadion 1st

Wood Memorial
2003 Funny Cide 2nd
2001 Monarchos 2nd
2000 Fusaichi Pegasus 1st
1994 Go for Gin 2nd
1981 Pleasant Colony 1st
1980 Genuine Risk 3rd
1977 Seattle Slew 1st
1976 Bold Forbes 1st
1975 Foolish Pleasure 1st
1973 Secretariat 3rd
1961 Carry Back 2nd
1951 Count Turf UNP
1950 Middleground 2nd
1946 Assault 1st
1945 Hoop Jr. 1st
1943 Count Fleet 1st
1939 Johnstown 1st
1935 Omaha 3rd
1931 Twenty Grand 1st
1930 Gallant Fox 1st


MAIDEN WINNERS
Buchanan (1884), Sir Barton (1919) Brokers Tip (1933)



*Alysheba finished first in the 1987 Bluegrass but was disqualified and placed third.

**Forward Pass finished 2nd in the 1968 Fountain of Youth but was placed last.

[cabvmd]

According to Wickpedia

Derby participants are limited to three-year-old horses. No horse since Apollo in 1882 has won the Derby without racing at age two

Oh well

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by cabvmd

According to Wickpedia

Derby participants are limited to three-year-old horses. No horse since Apollo in 1882 has won the Derby without racing at age two

Oh well

p.s. You win the cutest dog avatar award.

[Theatrical]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

p.s. You win the cutest dog avatar award.

I was thinking the same thing. Great looking dog.