Dunkirk -- 2 Questions

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Yeah - we'd already have conceded the race to him.

That but there wouldn't be so much hate for a horse who ran second in the Florida Derby. IF there was a different earnings method for entry into the race, say 2-year-old races discounted, than Dunkirk would be in no problem with a second and the entire discussion surrounding him takes on a different tone.

It would go from not whether or not he should run because of this/that, but whether or not he can overcome the current deficit between Quality Road, which I think should be the topic surrounding him.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

That but there wouldn't be so much hate for a horse who ran second in the Florida Derby. IF there was a different earnings method for entry into the race, say 2-year-old races discounted, than Dunkirk would be in no problem with a second and the entire discussion surrounding him takes on a different tone.

If would go from not whether or not he should run because of this/that, but whether or not he can overcome the current deficit between Quality Road, which I think should be the topic surrounding him.

i'm not a hater. i just think others deserve a better look for the next few weeks than dunkirk.
and i don't think he is better than several horses out there-and i think it would not be in the best interests of the horse to run him in ky, all things considered about him. if he needs easy treatment, and well-spaced races, that's what they should do with him.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i'm not a hater. i just think others deserve a better look for the next few weeks than dunkirk.
and i don't think he is better than several horses out there-and i think it would not be in the best interests of the horse to run him in ky, all things considered about him. if he needs easy treatment, and well-spaced races, that's what they should do with him.

lets do a head to head bet

I'll take Dunkirk, and you can choose any other horse in the race (this only happens if Dunkirk actually races in the KY Derby)

the bet is just based on where Dunkirk finished compared to where the horse you pick finished.

Loser has to buy the beers when you come to central Florida.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

lets do a head to head bet

I'll take Dunkirk, and you can choose any other horse in the race (this only happens if Dunkirk actually races in the KY Derby)

the bet is just based on where Dunkirk finished compared to where the horse you pick finished.

Loser has to buy the beers when you come to central Florida.

To be fair, you might want to point out just how many beers you can drink.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

To be fair, you might want to point out just how many beers you can drink.

How many beers I drink will have to depend on who wins this bet LOL

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

lets do a head to head bet

I'll take Dunkirk, and you can choose any other horse in the race (this only happens if Dunkirk actually races in the KY Derby)

the bet is just based on where Dunkirk finished compared to where the horse you pick finished.

Loser has to buy the beers when you come to central Florida.

i don't drink beer. but i'll be happy to buy you a few when we get down there in july.

i don't have a derby pick as yet.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't drink beer. but i'll be happy to buy you a few when we get down there in july.

i don't have a derby pick as yet.

You can wait til the day of the race to pick yours....

I'm going with Dunkirk... but obviously this bet is non existant if Dunkirk doesnt run in the race.

And you can drink whatever you want!! I just like these kind of side bets, especially when someone really doesnt seem to care for a horse that I really like

(I bet Cajun the other year the Curlin would finish ahead Scat Daddy... and that Bernardini would beat Perfect Drift in the BC Classic a few years ago...
damn Cajun those were some bad picks you had!)

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

You can wait til the day of the race to pick yours....

I'm going with Dunkirk... but obviously this bet is non existant if Dunkirk doesnt run in the race.

And you can drink whatever you want!! I just like these kind of side bets, especially when someone really doesnt seem to care for a horse that I really like

(I bet Cajun the other year the Curlin would finish ahead Scat Daddy... and that Bernardini would beat Perfect Drift in the BC Classic a few years ago...
damn Cajun those were some bad picks you had!)

oh, SNAP! cue Cajun in 3,2,1...

and yes, trusty can put back a lot of beers, a lot more than me!

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

You can wait til the day of the race to pick yours....

I'm going with Dunkirk... but obviously this bet is non existant if Dunkirk doesnt run in the race.

And you can drink whatever you want!! I just like these kind of side bets, especially when someone really doesnt seem to care for a horse that I really like

(I bet Cajun the other year the Curlin would finish ahead Scat Daddy... and that Bernardini would beat Perfect Drift in the BC Classic a few years ago...
damn Cajun those were some bad picks you had!)

And the Saints over the Bears in the playoffs a couple years back...basically Jamie's picks are better than Hank Goldberg's at finding runners and teams to immediately toss out

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

And the Saints over the Bears in the playoffs a couple years back...basically Jamie's picks are better than Hank Goldberg's at finding runners and teams to immediately toss out

an easy FTFY would be ANYONE'S picks are better.

yet, he's still on t.v. go figure.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

You can wait til the day of the race to pick yours....

I'm going with Dunkirk... but obviously this bet is non existant if Dunkirk doesnt run in the race.

And you can drink whatever you want!! I just like these kind of side bets, especially when someone really doesnt seem to care for a horse that I really like

(I bet Cajun the other year the Curlin would finish ahead Scat Daddy... and that Bernardini would beat Perfect Drift in the BC Classic a few years ago...
damn Cajun those were some bad picks you had!)

honestly, i'd rather someone (maybe you?) would explain to me what i'm missing about the horse. he's talented, no doubt. i just don't think he's quite ready for the deep end of the pool yet. he still has his floaties on.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

honestly, i'd rather someone (maybe you?) would explain to me what i'm missing about the horse. he's talented, no doubt. i just don't think he's quite ready for the deep end of the pool yet. he still has his floaties on.

I really dont know LOL.

Its just a gamble to me. His move in the FL Derby reminded me of Monarcho's. Right after Monarcho's won the FL Derby I said "that horse is winning the KY Derby". Of course, he then ran 2nd in the Wood, and I jumped on board with some Goldophin horse (Express tour I believe), and wanted to kick myself after Monarcho's won so well...

I just thought his move was real nice, and I think there will be a solid pace for a horse with Dunkirks' style to take advantage of. I think the front runners will burn each other out.

I just like him thats all... as of now he's my choice to win it all. He really impressed me in the FL Derby.

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

That but there wouldn't be so much hate for a horse who ran second in the Florida Derby. ...

Two words for you - Blue Burner.

It isn't that he ran second; it was the way he ran second.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Two words for you - Blue Burner.

It isn't that he ran second; it was the way he ran second.

What?!

Blue Burner and Dunkirk, is that the comparison we're going to make?

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

What?!

Blue Burner and Dunkirk, is that the comparison we're going to make?

I'm saying that finishing second in the Florida Derby is not a guarantee that the horse is of sterling quality. More data is required.