Blue Grass & Ark Derby

[Bobby Fischer]

Good insights

The only thing I might not agree totally with is the last comment on Win Willy. I thought Win Willy ran almost the same in the AD as he did when he won the Rebel.
In the Rebel the pace may have simply collapsed and in the AD there was still racing going on up front.
If he ran the same, i couldn't make a lot of conclusions about the track.

I could be wrong. Just first impressions, and will have to review both races to get a stronger opinion.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

Good insights

The only thing I might not agree totally with is the last comment on Win Willy. I thought Win Willy ran almost the same in the AD as he did when he won the Rebel.
In the Rebel the pace may have simply collapsed and in the AD there was still racing going on up front.
If he ran the same, i couldn't make a lot of conclusions about the track.

I could be wrong. Just first impressions, and will have to review both races to get a stronger opinion.

I didn't think his race was as good as last time.

Win Willy has a strong wet track pedigree and his trainer has Chuck Simon-esque like numbers on wet tracks .. so I wouldn't get excited about him again unless he finds another spot where he gets both a rapid pace to setup his close and a slow tiring wet racetrack.

[Bobby Fischer]

do you think old fashioned ran better (number wise) in the Arkansas Derby?

I thought he ran much better.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

No - I don't.

He ran worse imo.

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

No - I don't.

He ran worse imo.

then we have a disagreement (at least to the point that this will interest me in exploring this race deeper)

Besides the visual appearance, I think I am biased against the closing times here.

In the Arkansas Derby 38seconds for 3/8ths = moderate
in the Rebel Stakes 33seconds for 5/16ths = terrible