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Old 04-11-2009, 06:26 PM
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Ken Ramsey is turning over in his cave...
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Ken Ramsey is turning over in his cave...
And he's not getting a reception.
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Old 04-11-2009, 09:41 PM
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Ken Ramsey is turning over in his cave...
Ken Ramsey: "Wes, What the hell were you thinking running a future G1 winner for a 20k tag? What are you a F'n idiot?"

Wes Ward: "Mr. Ramsey he (general quarters) just wasn't taking to my microwave program. He wouldn't even respond to being plugged in out of the gate, during the mock 2 furlong trial runs in the morning. He couldn't even outrun my Bring the Heat filly last Febuary. I'm really sorry Mr. Ramsey, I just never thought of giving a son of Sky Mesa out of an Unbridled Song mare time to mature.
Please, just don't give Notonthesamepage and Cannonball to Maker. I know I told you that NOTSP would stretch out but, we still have the Matt Winn at CHD."
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Old 04-11-2009, 11:09 PM
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Ken Ramsey: "Wes, What the hell were you thinking running a future G1 winner for a 20k tag? What are you a F'n idiot?"

Wes Ward: "Mr. Ramsey he (general quarters) just wasn't taking to my microwave program. He wouldn't even respond to being plugged in out of the gate, during the mock 2 furlong trial runs in the morning. He couldn't even outrun my Bring the Heat filly last Febuary. I'm really sorry Mr. Ramsey, I just never thought of giving a son of Sky Mesa out of an Unbridled Song mare time to mature.
Please, just don't give Notonthesamepage and Cannonball to Maker. I know I told you that NOTSP would stretch out but, we still have the Matt Winn at CHD."
The ironic part is that this is the horse he has been waiting on his whole life. The one who can win 1st out early in his 2 yo year and still be around to win Triple crown preps and have a semi legit shot in the Derby. Just makes it a better story, at least for me.
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Old 04-12-2009, 02:56 AM
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Ken Ramsey: "Wes, What the hell were you thinking running a future G1 winner for a 20k tag? What are you a F'n idiot?"

Wes Ward: "Mr. Ramsey he (general quarters) just wasn't taking to my microwave program. He wouldn't even respond to being plugged in out of the gate, during the mock 2 furlong trial runs in the morning. He couldn't even outrun my Bring the Heat filly last Febuary. I'm really sorry Mr. Ramsey, I just never thought of giving a son of Sky Mesa out of an Unbridled Song mare time to mature.
Please, just don't give Notonthesamepage and Cannonball to Maker. I know I told you that NOTSP would stretch out but, we still have the Matt Winn at CHD."
What about his 7 straight loses after the claim? Monday morning quarterbacks
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Old 04-12-2009, 07:19 AM
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What about his 7 straight loses after the claim? Monday morning quarterbacks
So it was okay to let him go for $20k.

Thanks for clearing that up for me.
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Old 04-12-2009, 07:25 AM
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i think lucas has broken down a few owners too.
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Old 04-12-2009, 07:28 AM
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I was at Tampa when Ramsey's eventual multiple Grade 1 stakes placed Talent Search debuted for a 12.5K maiden claiming tag.

Of course - there were no takers that day.

I just looked up the dam of General Quarters ... she had to be the all-time worst horse Calumet Farms ever owned.
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Old 04-12-2009, 07:46 AM
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I would have liked to have seen a match race between Quality Road's dam - carrying the colors of Allen Paulson ... and General Quarter's dam - carrying the colors of Calumet Farms.

It would have been an epic battle between the two worst horses to ever run in those legendery silks.



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Old 04-12-2009, 09:38 AM
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I would have liked to have seen a match race between Quality Road's dam - carrying the colors of Allen Paulson ... and General Quarter's dam - carrying the colors of Calumet Farms.

It would have been an epic battle between the two worst horses to ever run in those legendery silks.



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Old 04-12-2009, 01:43 PM
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I would have liked to have seen a match race between Quality Road's dam - carrying the colors of Allen Paulson ... and General Quarter's dam - carrying the colors of Calumet Farms.

It would have been an epic battle between the two worst horses to ever run in those legendery silks.



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Old 04-12-2009, 12:38 PM
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I was at Tampa when Ramsey's eventual multiple Grade 1 stakes placed Talent Search debuted for a 12.5K maiden claiming tag.

Of course - there were no takers that day.

I just looked up the dam of General Quarters ... she had to be the all-time worst horse Calumet Farms ever owned.
Yeah, he was trained by the BEST trainer that Ramsey ever employed...
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Old 04-12-2009, 12:40 PM
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Have you seen his record when he ships to Beaulah!?
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Old 04-12-2009, 09:30 AM
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So it was okay to let him go for $20k.

Thanks for clearing that up for me.
your welcome
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Old 04-12-2009, 09:35 AM
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What about his 7 straight loses after the claim? Monday morning quarterbacks
Losses arent a stain on a horses record. After giving him the summer off the horse was clearly a better horse. I am just happy that everyday when he reads about this horse for the next 3 weeks, Mr. Ramsey will feel a little sick. And regardless of what he says in public or private, he will.
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Losses arent a stain on a horses record. After giving him the summer off the horse was clearly a better horse. I am just happy that everyday when he reads about this horse for the next 3 weeks, Mr. Ramsey will feel a little sick. And regardless of what he says in public or private, he will.
I'm sure he will, but to say he or anyone else new this horse was a derby prospect is on drugs. Do you think Mr Mccarthy had the derby in mind? Of course he did, that's why he claimed him. I will say, even in all his losses, he had good fractions.
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Old 04-12-2009, 10:23 AM
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I'm sure he will, but to say he or anyone else new this horse was a derby prospect is on drugs. Do you think Mr Mccarthy had the derby in mind? Of course he did, that's why he claimed him. I will say, even in all his losses, he had good fractions.
No one said that he thought he was a Derby prospect when he claimed him. I'm sure they werent even very concerned about losing him THEN. But the fact is that he now is and was claimed from Ramsey which has to burn his ass.
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Old 04-12-2009, 10:29 AM
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It should burn his ass - and I'm sure it will.

But he can take some comfort knowing that his big stallion was claimed ... and I believe in a losing effort to Buck Strider no less.
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