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Old 04-11-2009, 04:52 PM
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Maybe Win Willy can add his own feel good story in about 45 minutes.
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Old 04-11-2009, 04:58 PM
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Not that I expect it but to see D.Wayne Lukas back in the Derby would be a nice touch.
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Old 04-11-2009, 05:07 PM
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Not that I expect it but to see D.Wayne Lukas back in the Derby would be a nice touch.
I would hate to see any potentially nice horse in his hands. Ever.
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Old 04-11-2009, 05:09 PM
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I would hate to see any potentially nice horse in his hands. Ever.
agreed...
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Old 04-11-2009, 05:09 PM
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I would hate to see any potentially nice horse in his hands. Ever.
Ever?
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Old 04-11-2009, 05:13 PM
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Do you guys mind if I defecate in the middle of this thread?
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Old 04-11-2009, 05:20 PM
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I would hate to see any potentially nice horse in his hands. Ever.
Obviously, you'd hate to have a champion. Ever.
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Old 04-11-2009, 06:26 PM
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Ken Ramsey is turning over in his cave...
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Old 04-11-2009, 06:31 PM
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Ken Ramsey is turning over in his cave...
And he's not getting a reception.
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Old 04-11-2009, 09:41 PM
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Ken Ramsey is turning over in his cave...
Ken Ramsey: "Wes, What the hell were you thinking running a future G1 winner for a 20k tag? What are you a F'n idiot?"

Wes Ward: "Mr. Ramsey he (general quarters) just wasn't taking to my microwave program. He wouldn't even respond to being plugged in out of the gate, during the mock 2 furlong trial runs in the morning. He couldn't even outrun my Bring the Heat filly last Febuary. I'm really sorry Mr. Ramsey, I just never thought of giving a son of Sky Mesa out of an Unbridled Song mare time to mature.
Please, just don't give Notonthesamepage and Cannonball to Maker. I know I told you that NOTSP would stretch out but, we still have the Matt Winn at CHD."
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Old 04-11-2009, 11:09 PM
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Ken Ramsey: "Wes, What the hell were you thinking running a future G1 winner for a 20k tag? What are you a F'n idiot?"

Wes Ward: "Mr. Ramsey he (general quarters) just wasn't taking to my microwave program. He wouldn't even respond to being plugged in out of the gate, during the mock 2 furlong trial runs in the morning. He couldn't even outrun my Bring the Heat filly last Febuary. I'm really sorry Mr. Ramsey, I just never thought of giving a son of Sky Mesa out of an Unbridled Song mare time to mature.
Please, just don't give Notonthesamepage and Cannonball to Maker. I know I told you that NOTSP would stretch out but, we still have the Matt Winn at CHD."
The ironic part is that this is the horse he has been waiting on his whole life. The one who can win 1st out early in his 2 yo year and still be around to win Triple crown preps and have a semi legit shot in the Derby. Just makes it a better story, at least for me.
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Old 04-12-2009, 02:56 AM
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Ken Ramsey: "Wes, What the hell were you thinking running a future G1 winner for a 20k tag? What are you a F'n idiot?"

Wes Ward: "Mr. Ramsey he (general quarters) just wasn't taking to my microwave program. He wouldn't even respond to being plugged in out of the gate, during the mock 2 furlong trial runs in the morning. He couldn't even outrun my Bring the Heat filly last Febuary. I'm really sorry Mr. Ramsey, I just never thought of giving a son of Sky Mesa out of an Unbridled Song mare time to mature.
Please, just don't give Notonthesamepage and Cannonball to Maker. I know I told you that NOTSP would stretch out but, we still have the Matt Winn at CHD."
What about his 7 straight loses after the claim? Monday morning quarterbacks
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Old 04-11-2009, 08:42 PM
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Obviously, you'd hate to have a champion. Ever.
I'd hate to have a horse run into the ground when he needed time off (Going Wild) or one of the many of his who broke down.
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I'd hate to have a horse run into the ground when he needed time off (Going Wild) or one of the many of his who broke down.
You'd probably also hate to have one of his many champions or grade one winners that benefitted from his being tough on them.
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Old 04-11-2009, 09:26 PM
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I love how anytime someone decides to sh.it on Lukas the first horse brought up is Going Wild. What about Serena's Song? Or his countless other champions?
The scary part is had she not gotten hurt, Flanders was just as good, if not better, than Serena's Song.
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Old 04-11-2009, 09:36 PM
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The scary part is had she not gotten hurt, Flanders was just as good, if not better, than Serena's Song.
Flanders hands down was the better horse, injured she still found a way to beat her in the fillies race.
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Old 04-11-2009, 10:37 PM
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I love how anytime someone decides to sh.it on Lukas the first horse brought up is Going Wild. What about Serena's Song? Or his countless other champions?

Speaking of running horses into the ground, Larry Jones is becoming quite the horse demolisher. He'd better start wearing a bigger sombrero to the track so people won't notice him.
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Old 04-11-2009, 10:46 PM
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Yeah...I mean I agree with all the Lukas haters on here. The guy has been horrible for the game. All those champions he trained. Pure luck. And get this.....during the Oaklawn meet this year, when he had a winner, he took a little kid into the winner's circle for the picture. What a total a-hole huh?
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Old 04-11-2009, 11:10 PM
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I love how anytime someone decides to sh.it on Lukas the first horse brought up is Going Wild. What about Serena's Song? Or his countless other champions?
just think if theregoesjojo was a lukas horse...he runs back off two weeks, not a peep. or mott running hold me back in his 3 yo debut vs stakes co, or square eddie still going for the derby off of probably one prep. but lukas, who isn't even in the limelight, is still everyone's trainer to hate on. but there's others who do the same as he has done....lol crazy stuff.
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Old 04-11-2009, 11:15 PM
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just think if theregoesjojo was a lukas horse...he runs back off two weeks, not a peep. or mott running hold me back in his 3 yo debut vs stakes co, or square eddie still going for the derby off of probably one prep. but lukas, who isn't even in the limelight, is still everyone's trainer to hate on. but there's others who do the same as he has done....lol crazy stuff.
Let's face it Lukas has destroyed some pretty good horses, even some before they got a chance to be great. However on the other hand he has gotten the best performances out of others on the biggest stages as much as anyone ever. The thing that he should be most notorious for is making the "supertrainer" acceptable in non-claiming circles. That will be his lasting legacy and his most negative impact on the sport.
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