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Old 04-10-2009, 10:57 AM
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So, Thorn Song is not much because he, apparently, needs everything his own way to win. While I disagree with this, as I've seen the horse actually run some game races, I wonder why Just As Well, who ABSOLUTELY CANNOT WIN unless he catches a race that completely falls apart, is, apparently, held in higher regard.

While it appears that there'll be plenty of action on the front end, I wouldn't count on this race collapsing enough for the pick up the pieces types.
I think Thorn Song is at his best when he's alone on the lead. He ran the bang-up race at Keeneland last year on a turf course that played well to speed. I won't dispute that he has run some game races but I don't see him getting clear of House of Silver enough to take them all the way. With him at 5/2 or less, I'll gamble that he's a need the lead type.

As far as Just As Well, I don't think they need to fall apart in front of him. He ran a pretty strong final quarter in the GP Turf Cap in a race that was certainly not collapsing. He needs a well-timed move going a mile but considering the pace will be good, he has the best turf rider on the grounds on his back, and will be a better price than Thorn Song.

What do you think of Twilight Meteor?

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Old 04-10-2009, 11:11 AM
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As far as Just As Well, I don't think they need to fall apart in front of him. He ran a pretty strong final quarter in the GP Turf Cap in a race that was certainly not collapsing. He needs a well-timed move going a mile but considering the pace will be good, he has the best turf rider on the grounds on his back, and will be a better price than Thorn Song.

What do you think of Twilight Meteor?

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I don't think JaW ran particularly well in the GP turf. He last moved a field that had done much middle running trying to run down Kip Deville -- that's the only way he was able to get past Court Vision or, even, Kiss the Kid.

As for TM, I never thought much of him as a horse but he'll probably get the best trip of all today. Unless, of course, Albarado uses his head and stalks with TS.
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Old 04-10-2009, 11:12 AM
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Twilight Meteor is scratched.
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Old 04-10-2009, 11:41 AM
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I can't get excited about Thorn Song at 5-2 with his woeful deterioration in form last year. Sure he could win, and a good portion of the time he probably does, but I think there are better opportunities. Horses like Just as Well and Passager could easily win this race but ultimately they're good not great.

I think the interesting play in this race is Fluke who was really sharp last time against an okay group out west, has handled a wet turf before and is interestingly spotted by Frankel.
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Old 04-10-2009, 11:45 AM
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MM - looks like a single-race pass to me. Not really liking anyone here at their probable odds.

The Harrod looks like it has an obvious winner, although I could be wrong.
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Old 04-10-2009, 11:51 AM
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Unless it is a Fluke, You only need to go 2 deep... 4-Passanger / 7-Just as Well
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Old 04-10-2009, 02:23 PM
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Now that Twilight Meteor has scratched, I don't have a play in this race. I went ahead and chose Fluke in the Keeneland contest.
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Old 04-10-2009, 02:33 PM
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Not playing due to the scratch. No value, no pace, no interest.
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Old 04-10-2009, 03:00 PM
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Unless it is a Fluke, You only need to go 2 deep... 4-Passanger / 7-Just as Well
I admire your conviction, but you're completely disregarding Thorn Song?
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Old 04-10-2009, 03:26 PM
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Gomez rode his ass off again in the Ft Harrod.

I like that he's been aggressive, and he's made the right moves, just has misjudged some of these to the favor of the last-move suck up specialists.

Thought Rocket Legs was a good price at 5-2 but he ran like a dud, broke sluggishly, swung up to the front in a pioneerof the early move in the face of a decent pace, and quit badly. Not a lot of horse to work with
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Old 04-10-2009, 04:08 PM
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Is there a weaker finisher than Prado these days? How did he not get that horse up in the Maker's Mark?
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Old 04-10-2009, 04:12 PM
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Is there a weaker finisher than Prado these days? How did he not get that horse up in the Maker's Mark?

I was shocked he did not blow right by. Prado was supremely confident, waiting until Mr Sidney got away by 3 lengths before even asking Passager.
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Old 04-10-2009, 04:09 PM
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Nice run by Mr. Sidney. Thorn Song ran Fluke into the ground, and then pretty well sunk into the ground.

Final time: 1:41.84. The course was so soft it looked like they were running on a treadmill halfway through and out of the final turn.
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Old 04-10-2009, 06:00 PM
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GoGo Gomez 1st turn! Fort Harrod into solid fractions for 1 5/8ths
24.33 47.77, 1:11.47, 1:37.14, 2:04.40, 2:44.02

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Old 04-10-2009, 09:28 PM
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GoGo Gomez 1st turn! Fort Harrod into solid fractions for 1 5/8ths
24.33 47.77, 1:11.47, 1:37.14, 2:04.40, 2:44.02

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Not really sure if Rocket Legs was a play at 5/2. Rockets Legs current form is not that great either. I really dont blame gomez sending him to the front but unfortunately he did go too fast. Next time he could throttle him down a bit and could probably be a nice play at better odds.
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Old 04-11-2009, 09:18 AM
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I'm actually digging this one.
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Old 04-11-2009, 10:10 AM
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I'm actually digging this one.
It's weird because it looks like a move turning for home and it is actually very early in the race.
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