Mullins/Gato Go Win SCR story emerging

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by docicu3

This is exactly the point. Guanefisin is a mucolytic or a cough syrup which has absolutely zero measurable benefit to horses, humans or rodents like Mullins. The Air Power syringe HAD to be a decoy for something else he was giving.

Mullins used the oral syringe to carry "Drug X" (no offense Drugs) so that if he was caught he had his "It's only Air Power" excuse readily available.

Let me give you a very real example of a drug that could have been used here.

DNAse or Dornase Alpha is a medication we use in humans (normally nebulized but one would think a well placed oral syringe may be of benefit).
This medication was a break through for kids with Cystic Fibosis who could not mobilize secretions or clear this very thick tenacious mucus from their airways or lungs. This problem is commonly associated with CF.

The genius of the medication is that part of it's mechanism of action was to turn itself into water after thinning these cement like secretions. So the drug literally turns the cement like substance in the lungs of these kids into water vapor that is exhaled.......which of course would make it undetectable should you want to test for it.

Hopefully the benefit to a guy like Mullins with a stakes horse or two in the detention barn is obvious....

Let your imagination unwind a little further and you realize that the terminal reaction of turning the Drug X,Y or Z into water vapor or actually CO2 and H20 could be used with any medication as long as it is constructed to metabolize to CO2 and H2O.

The same chemistry that created DNAse for CF kids to melt secretions could be used to 1) administer stimulants 2) anabolic meds etc. etc etc. The possibilities are endless. If you could give any cheating compound and have it metabolize to water vapor it doesn't matter what you start with. The effects of the initial med are undetectable and the logic that all cheating substances are measurable in urine or blood is a fairy tale. The whole idea doesn't require a brilliant chemist as the technology is already very well known.

Interestingly Mullins was catchable Saturday, if the syringe and it's contents were tested by HPLC or chromotography against an "Air Power" control. If you compared the pattern of the control to the syringe Mullins had Saturday and if additional spikes were present or isolated, it would prove he wasn't just using Air Power as the drug only turns to water if it comes in contact with mucus. My guess is Mullins isn't aware of that....

Now again the facts above are all legit but I have no insider knowledge that this is what actually Mullins did. I just wanted to lay out how easy it would be for him to pull this off in the Detention Barn last Saturday.

Boomer...Thx hope Gunner is doing well

[paisjpq]

Does it even matter WHAT he was trying to give the horse? I don't care if he was feeding a peppermint, the point is you can't give ANYTHING in the detention barn. And that's why he should be punished.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

Does it even matter WHAT he was trying to give the horse? I don't care if he was feeding a peppermint, the point is you can't give ANYTHING in the detention barn. And that's why he should be punished.

true.
but i think they should test the syringe, see just what was in there. perhaps his punishment could be extended beyond carrying a syringe and giving air power.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

Does it even matter WHAT he was trying to give the horse? I don't care if he was feeding a peppermint, the point is you can't give ANYTHING in the detention barn. And that's why he should be punished.

Thank you for bringing this thread back to reality.

[Danzig]

just opened the april 18 bloodhorse, and found this in an article about mullins and gato go win~

"(Mullins) just wasn't thinking and just made a mistake. He thought it was okay. With all the hype and excitement with I Want Revenge, he just didn't realize what he was doing." -Randy Hartley



doesn't sound as tho there will be a trainer switch for hartley/de renzo. they obviously agree with his type of operation, so what does that say about them?

perhaps i should have posted the above quote in the bullsh!t thread, because it reeks of bs to me.

mullins wasn't thinking? he thought it was okay?!?! if anyone knows what the rules are regarding a D barn, it would be JM-he's run out of them before.

[sumitas]

Hartley must think we are all a bunch of idiots . I hope NYRA and NY state will set him straight once and for all .

[Sightseek]

Fined and suspended 7 days (starting after the Derby).

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...ded-seven-days

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Fined and suspended 7 days (starting after the Derby).

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...ded-seven-days

did they ever make the lab results of the syringe public ?

[parsixfarms]

It's business as usual: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...ded-seven-days.

And racing's leaders wonder why no one takes them serious when they state that they are serious about cleaning up the sport. Apparently, the "new" New York racing leaders are no better than their predecessors. The most humorous part of what looks like a negotiated resolution is that it will go into effect the day after the Kentucky Derby. How convenient.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by Cardus

Are you blaming NYRA or the state RWB?

Both, after all, each hires one of the stewards who made this decision. And I'll bet that NYRA Backstretch Violations panel that Mullins was supposed to meet on Thursday was adjourned in order that the stewards could announce this negotiated settlement (and NYRA wouldn't have to do anything about it). Charlie Hayward all but said that NYRA wanted the state to take lead on this (another way of saying NYRA wanted to pass the hot potato).

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Danzig

just opened the april 18 bloodhorse, and found this in an article about mullins and gato go win~

"(Mullins) just wasn't thinking and just made a mistake. He thought it was okay. With all the hype and excitement with I Want Revenge, he just didn't realize what he was doing." -Randy Hartley



doesn't sound as tho there will be a trainer switch for hartley/de renzo. they obviously agree with his type of operation, so what does that say about them?

perhaps i should have posted the above quote in the bullsh!t thread, because it reeks of bs to me.

mullins wasn't thinking? he thought it was okay?!?! if anyone knows what the rules are regarding a D barn, it would be JM-he's run out of them before.

If they believe Mullins didn't realize what he was doing, I have a foolproof way of predicting the winner of the Derby if they're interested, for a few hundred bucks. It involves, much like reading tea leaves, an interpretation of whatever I might fight in my cat's litter box at any given moment. Of course sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between your horse winning the Derby and a great big festering pile of cat feces. In the eye of the beholder, really.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

If they believe Mullins didn't realize what he was doing, I have a foolproof way of predicting the winner of the Derby if they're interested, for a few hundred bucks. It involves, much like reading tea leaves, an interpretation of whatever I might fight in my cat's litter box at any given moment. Of course sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between your horse winning the Derby and a great big festering pile of cat feces. In the eye of the beholder, really.

i don't think they believe it. i think they just don't care. shocking, considering their horse had to scratch because their trainer is a moron. i can't imagine i'd be that forgiving. but then, i wouldn't have hired mullins to begin with. if you decide to have a pet rattlesnake, and he bites you-whose fault is it?? the snake is only doing what rattlesnakes do....

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by Danzig

"(Mullins) just wasn't thinking and just made a mistake. He thought it was okay. With all the hype and excitement with I Want Revenge, he just didn't realize what he was doing." -Randy Hartley

Mullins was doing what good cheats do - he was cheating in such a comfortable, open way, that to most observers it wouldn't draw suspicion.

A personal example I can give is when I was a young man working at the airport (pre 9/11), and I would be running late, I would walk around the metal detectors on my way in. I had a uniform, and a badge, and I would just confidently walk past so I didn't have to wait a couple minutes in line.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

Mullins was doing what good cheats do - he was cheating in such a comfortable, open way, that to most observers it wouldn't draw suspicion.

A personal example I can give is when I was a young man working at the airport (pre 9/11), and I would be running late, I would walk around the metal detectors on my way in. I had a uniform, and a badge, and I would just confidently walk past so I didn't have to wait a couple minutes in line.

probably figured when he started rubbing cream on the horses snout that whoever was watching would walk away. did it work before the gotham?