Just when I thought this guy was being smart...

[parsixfarms]

If someone reportedly offered $3 million for Win Willy, then IWR's price tag is considerably higher than $4 million.

[letswastemoney]

Stardom Bound is overhyped but....I wouldn't say she has no chance in the Ky Oaks. She's just not the invincible filly that people made her out to be. But she has a chance....

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Stardom Bound is overhyped but....I wouldn't say she has no chance in the Ky Oaks. She's just not the invincible filly that people made her out to be. But she has a chance....

To hit the Board.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

If someone reportedly offered $3 million for Win Willy, then IWR's price tag is considerably higher than $4 million.

(1) I doubt there really was a $3mm offer for Win Willy
(2) Both have the same main drawing point, a ticket to the Derby/TC
(3) Both have similar OK, but unspectacular, pedigrees for stud purposes
(4) One ran a 113 beyer in his last prep and the other ran a 102, 11 points- 6 lengths (on a one-time effort for both) shouldn't inflate the price by more than 2X
(5) I'm not on the bandwagon of either of them so all prices in that range seem irrational

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by philcski

(1) I doubt there really was a $3mm offer for Win Willy(2) Both have the same main drawing point, a ticket to the Derby/TC
(3) Both have similar OK, but unspectacular, pedigrees for stud purposes
(4) One ran a 113 beyer in his last prep and the other ran a 102, 11 points- 6 lengths (on a one-time effort for both) shouldn't inflate the price by more than 2X
(5) I'm not on the bandwagon of either of them so all prices in that range seem irrational

i don't. he's a monarchos for one, there's still crazy money out there for another. he's on the graded earnings list which is something not many can say at this point. he may have come out of nowhere, and he may retreat to the same---but then again, he may not.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't. he's a monarchos for one, there's still crazy money out there for another. he's on the graded earnings list which is something not many can say at this point. he may have come out of nowhere, and he may retreat to the same---but then again, he may not.

Is being a Monarchos now a good thing?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Is being a Monarchos now a good thing?

When hasn't it been? He doubled the amount of graded stakes winners he's produced this year.

Of course, it was from 1 to 2.

NT

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

When hasn't it been? He doubled the amount of graded stakes winners he's produced this year.

Of course, it was from 1 to 2.

NT

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Is being a Monarchos now a good thing?

when someone is looking to buy a top three year old to try to win the derby, i think he might like that said colt is by a derby winner. i know monarchos isn't exactly a top sire-but we all know a horse can get the occasional good one. whether it pans out for them is another story.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by philcski

(1) I doubt there really was a $3mm offer for Win Willy
(2) Both have the same main drawing point, a ticket to the Derby/TC
(3) Both have similar OK, but unspectacular, pedigrees for stud purposes
(4) One ran a 113 beyer in his last prep and the other ran a 102, 11 points- 6 lengths (on a one-time effort for both) shouldn't inflate the price by more than 2X
(5) I'm not on the bandwagon of either of them so all prices in that range seem irrational

I'm not a big fan of I Want Revenge, and I agree with points 2 and 3 above. However, the general perception at this time is that IWR's a top 5 Derby contender, while Win Willy (who was 56-1 in his last start) is a marginal contender, at best.