Why was the "Andy versus Scuds" thread closed?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by CSC

I've already had this discussion with Fatman amd in particular regarding the BC Mile, where he thought Goldikova got a dream trip and Whatsthescript didn't. My point was one of many of Goldikova's assets is that she has the tactible speed to be placed wherever the jockey wants her to be given the dynamics of a race, something that Whatsthescript doesn't have the luxury of. I am willing to chalk up Goldikova's favorable trip had more to do with her than her being lucky, still she was closer to a hot pace than perhaps was necessary but the Jock probably knew she was good enough to win despite this, by keeping her out of trouble, so Fman you wanted an example of a good horse that puts herself in good spots, here she is.

What you meant to say is Goldikova got the Kip Deville trip.

No matter how you crack it, she had an unbelievable trip. Whatsthescript was the victim of a much too patient ride and when he wound up and fired he had to go wide and had too much to do.

This race was remarkable not because Goldikova is clearly a special filly, but also because someone finally got a better trip than Kip Deville in a race where he cracked the trifecta.

NT

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

What you meant to say is Goldikova got the Kip Deville trip.

No matter how you crack it, she had an unbelievable trip. Whatsthescript was the victim of a much too patient ride and when he wound up and fired he had to go wide and had too much to do.

This race was remarkable not because Goldikova is clearly a special filly, but also because someone finally got a better trip than Kip Deville in a race where he cracked the trifecta.

NT

That track was slowed up mightily (to favor Euro late runners.) Whatsthescript failed again over at HWD(against Hyperbaric.) WTSCRPT either soured, or needed his summer steroids(that Sadler had to finally stop giving him in early September.) Maybe he wasn't good enough (regardless,) but on that slowed up turf on B.C. Day, I think the old Whatsthescrpt would of been a lot closer(regardless of that trip.) He lost something in the Autumn. He wasn't as good as he was (for instance) the 1st time he ran for Sadler in June ( loaded with Steroids.) I think Get Funky also lost just a bit of something when steroids were missing.

[Cannon Shell]

The Andy Bias would be a good name for a horse

[PeteMugg]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The Andy Bias would be a good name for a horse

Gotta say it ... Clearly, it's already done enough!

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The Andy Bias would be a good name for a horse

Horse named in Honor of Rafael Furcal is "AnsoEggsidedYo."

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

What you meant to say is Goldikova got the Kip Deville trip.

No matter how you crack it, she had an unbelievable trip. Whatsthescript was the victim of a much too patient ride and when he wound up and fired he had to go wide and had too much to do.

This race was remarkable not because Goldikova is clearly a special filly, but also because someone finally got a better trip than Kip Deville in a race where he cracked the trifecta.

NT

So then if I'm reading u and Andy correctly, Whatsthescript is the horse to bet in the next meeting between the two. Again, while I understand how the odds may only be reflective of who won and who lost and not relative to their actual chances based on good trips for both, it's my contention that Goldikova is likely to continue to get better trips than Whatsthescript because of her tactical speed. Because of the later's running style, I'd be more inclined to believe that the next time they meet, she'd be more likely to get a better trip than him.