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Old 03-25-2009, 06:07 PM
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There are plenty of "rich" who wouldn't donate a penney of their money to charity no matter what the deduction...But I bet the majority of the 39% bracket that donate will continue to no matter what the loss of deductions might be. You think Bill Gates does what he does for the deduction?
That is not the point. The fact that charities are and will struggle with an economic downturn makes this idea a loser. Remember that everyone earning over $250k is now rich so throwing Bill Gates out there is a bit much. You need to come back to the US!

And while some will continue to donate at their current levels some of the not so rich rich people will cut their chartiable giving as to not have to go deeper in their pockets out of necessity of follow ing a budget or simply not having the extra money. In the end this cannot help charity and will hurt them. How is that a good thing?

You know if you disagree with a demoractic proposal we wont turn your name over to Pelosi and crew ....
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Old 03-25-2009, 06:12 PM
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That is not the point. The fact that charities are and will struggle with an economic downturn makes this idea a loser. Remember that everyone earning over $250k is now rich so throwing Bill Gates out there is a bit much. You need to come back to the US!

And while some will continue to donate at their current levels some of the not so rich rich people will cut their chartiable giving as to not have to go deeper in their pockets out of necessity of follow ing a budget or simply not having the extra money. In the end this cannot help charity and will hurt them. How is that a good thing?

You know if you disagree with a demoractic proposal we wont turn your name over to Pelosi and crew ....
You guys and your cute side comments...just can't help yourself..

yeah...it's a down economy so charities will suffer. I think the end result of the direction we are going will result in more money for people to donate then if the staus quo remained. It's just how you look at this and everything else...we are both pounding our heads against the wall because there is no agreeing at this point.
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Old 03-25-2009, 06:14 PM
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You guys and your cute side comments...just can't help yourself..

yeah...it's a down economy so charities will suffer. I think the end result of the direction we are going will result in more money for people to donate then if the staus quo remained. It's just how you look at this and everything else...we are both pounding our heads against the wall because there is no agreeing at this point.
How does this and other tax increases lead to more money being given? I would love to hear your reasoning?
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Old 03-25-2009, 06:17 PM
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How does this and other tax increases lead to more money being given? I would love to hear your reasoning?
Because Libs give far more than conservs and when libs are happy they give even more. Or at least I think that's what I think tonights leason is?
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Because Libs give far more than conservs and when libs are happy they give even more. Or at least I think that's what I think tonights leason is?
not bad Dell...one out of two
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Old 03-25-2009, 06:22 PM
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Because Libs give far more than conservs and when libs are happy they give even more. Or at least I think that's what I think tonights leason is?
I think that Bob may be way offbase with the idea that liberals arent feeling the pain economically and will be forced to reduce their giving out of necessity. If that happens and all of us bastard conservatives reduce our contributions where will the charities be in the end? In your view the liberals will have to increase their giving to make up the difference and I have a hard time believing that can happen at least in the short term.
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Old 03-25-2009, 06:27 PM
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I honestly have never heard conservatives...well...most anyways..be so concerned about charities until now. Usually they are trying to pass legislation to cut funding here or reduce support there. It is really quite heartwarming to see the right suddenly so concerned about charities.
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Old 03-25-2009, 06:28 PM
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I honestly have never heard conservatives...well...most anyways..be so concerned about charities until now. Usually they are trying to pass legislation to cut funding here or reduce support there. It is really quite heartwarming to see the right suddenly so concerned about charities.
There is a big difference between charities and govt programs
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Old 03-25-2009, 06:32 PM
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I honestly have never heard conservatives...well...most anyways..be so concerned about charities until now. Usually they are trying to pass legislation to cut funding here or reduce support there. It is really quite heartwarming to see the right suddenly so concerned about charities.
I don't usually get involved in this but this is a little much. I may not give money to A.C.O.R.N. or other such helpful social charities but it does not mean republicans don't give to the United Way, Food banks, and medical research.
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I honestly have never heard conservatives...well...most anyways..be so concerned about charities until now. Usually they are trying to pass legislation to cut funding here or reduce support there. It is really quite heartwarming to see the right suddenly so concerned about charities.
In 2000, brows were furrowed in perplexity because Vice President Al Gore's charitable contributions, as a percentage of his income, were below the national average: He gave 0.2 percent of his family income, one-seventh of the average for donating households.

Now that's the Democratic Green Way and to think what could've been.
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How does this and other tax increases lead to more money being given? I would love to hear your reasoning?
I think you are aware of the big picture behind what Obama is doing...obviously you disagree with it, but if you did agree, then I shouldn't have to connect the dots, even for a (edit) conservative like you
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I think you are aware of the big picture behind what Obama is doing...obviously you disagree with it, but if you did agree, then I shouldn't have to connect the dots, even for a guy like you
Is this an admission of a socialist agenda?
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