Scat Daddy or Circular Quay?

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Scat Daddy is a better horse and will beat him in the Breeders' Cup...maye not the Champagne, but in the Breeders' Cup when they stretchout around two turns and the real test in on the line....another horrid trip by Scat Daddy in the Hopeful that cost him, plus I think Circular Quay is looking more ad more like a one-turn closer specialist...we'll see, but my gut says he won't be as affective going two-turns for several reasons (and yes, I'm aware that he is a Thunder Gulch....)

Johhny V. needs to be arrested for the multiple bad rides he's already put on this talented colt....unreal in a 5-horse field....Oh yeah, he stumbled BADLY at the start ad had to be used three or so times in the race to the far turn if anybody noticed...he is the best of this generation...you can't win 'em all...thats horse racing...bad luck plays a factor..

it is hard to say Scat Daddy is a better horse. i agree that the race set up for circular quay but he ran an impressive race. i like circular quay more as they stretch out too but it is way too premature to say any of these horses will win the bcj. if i had to guess i would think a horse that was not even entered today would win.

[irishtrekker]

Originally Posted by Revolution

it is hard to say Scat Daddy is a better horse. i agree that the race set up for circular quay but he ran an impressive race. i like circular quay more as they stretch out too but it is way too premature to say any of these horses will win the bcj. if i had to guess i would think a horse that was not even entered today would win.

I think that's a really good point. Both of these horses look great, but it seems a little early to call either of them the BCJ winner.

Although I'd go with CQ if I had to pick.

Originally Posted by irishtrekker

I think that's a really good point. Both of these horses look great, but it seems a little early to call either of them the BCJ winner.

Although I'd go with CQ if I had to pick.

And I like the fact that somebody will at least make a bold prediction on this thread...I respect that....Yes-men with gutless predictions and post-race analysis are for another game...maybe like ballet?...

BE BOLD PEOPLE...Yes, racetrackers are negative people by nature and will always bash you when you are wrong, but who cares? I found it as a great way to learn the game and learn humility at the same time....

The people I hate the worst are the guys (and you know who you are) who jump on horses bandwagons AFTER they accomplish something, ad then claim that all along they knew the horse was great.....you know what I mean?...People that put themselves out there at least aren't looked at as frauds. IMO...have fun, make predictions!

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I guess this is directed at me. Well for the record read the first two posts of this thread. You thought "Scat Daddy is a better horse and will assert himself Monday as the early deserving favorite for the Breeders' Cup Juvenile." I said "I think Circular Quay has a ton of untapped potential, and I think Monday may be his coming out party. I love the fact that Pletcher has been laying low all meet with the horse, waiting for this spot, and I expect a HUGE effort Monday." There is no bandwagon jumping here. You are the king of the post race analysis, and all one would have to do would be read your post race analysis of the Hopeful to see that.

Great, now lets bet $100 on who will finish ahead of one another in the BC Juvenile...I'll tae Scat Daddy and you can have your CQ - who is clearly better than Scat Daddy, right.....

Comon, put your money where your mouth is, DaHoss....that is the ultimate sign of knowing what you are doing or not....Can you baack your horse racing knowledge and intuitrion with cash?...How much faith do you have in yourself about your evaluations of horses in this game?..Don't let yourself down...prove you know what you are talking about....

Oh, and whe you win (haha), I'll neeed to know who to make the check out to because I don't think your bank will cash a check made out to DaHoss

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Great, now lets bet $100 on who will finish ahead of one another in the BC Juvenile...I'll tae Scat Daddy and you can have your CQ - who is clearly better than Scat Daddy, right.....

Comon, put your money where your mouth is, DaHoss....that is the ultimate sign of knowing what you are doing or not....Can you baack your horse racing knowledge and intuitrion with cash?...How much faith do you have in yourself about your evaluations of horses in this game?..Don't let yourself down...prove you know what you are talking about....

Oh, and whe you win (haha), I'll neeed to know who to make the check out to because I don't think your bank will cash a check made out to DaHoss

Joel, put me down for 1 grand. I want that bet, do you?

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Joel, put me down for 1 grand. I want that bet, do you?

I'll take the $100 bet too. CQ vs. Scat Daddy in the BCJ

Originally Posted by moodwalker

I'll take the $100 bet too. CQ vs. Scat Daddy in the BCJ

Its hysterical, Joel assures us who is more talented and the one he knocks blows by the other one as if he isnt even there. then he explains the other one is better. This guy is hysterical.

[ArlJim78]

Joel, please put me down also for $100 on that bet. If they both go to the post in the BCJ, I'll take CQ to beat SD.

easy money.

personally i have some doubts that Scat Daddy makes it to the starting gate.

Originally Posted by moodwalker

I'll take the $100 bet too. CQ vs. Scat Daddy in the BCJ

Gotcha...we just need to find a way to get money orders to a nuetral, trust-worthy third-party person before the race....that is the only way I'll do the deal...So, whatcha think?

Originally Posted by oracle80

Joel, put me down for 1 grand. I want that bet, do you?

If I thought you were good pay I'd take it, but I've heard of your reputation....no thanks...Unless, you get a money order and send it to Byk and I'll do the same and we can do the deal.....I'll do that to prove you're an idiot....

You must think your boy Pletcher is an idiot then too because he also believes Scat Daddy is his best 2-year-old he has in the barn....has said it on many occasions to many people....but what does he know, right?

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

If I thought you were good pay I'd take it, but I've heard of your reputation....no thanks...Unless, you get a money order and send it to Byk and I'll do the same and we can do the deal.....I'll do that to prove you're an idiot....

You must think your boy Pletcher is an idiot then too because he also believes Scat Daddy is his best 2-year-old he has in the barn....has said it on many occasions to many people....but what does he know, right?

Hey Sunny Boy,
Your reputation is the one in question.
Besides, did you actually CRY when you got he axe at cd? Thats what I was told.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

You must think your boy Pletcher is an idiot then too because he also believes Scat Daddy is his best 2-year-old he has in the barn....has said it on many occasions to many people....but what does he know, right?

Wrong once again. Here is Pletchers's quote from BH yesterday;

"I think this puts both horses right at the top of the class," Pletcher continued. "I thought Scat Daddy, considering everything, was the one horse that finished up well out of the speed duel. Circular Quay... is the divisional leader at this stage."

Doesn't sound to me like he was making it real clear that Scat Daddy is the best in the barn. If he considers CQ the divisional leader I believe that covers everyone in his barn.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Look, I have no idea who will win the BC Juvenile. It's 2 year old racing, it's nearly impossible to predict. Show me where I said CQ will win the Juvenile. I said he would win the Hopeful, that is the only prediction I made. At no point have I questioned your knowledge at all on here. I actually have said that I enjoy your posts, a few times. I don't claim to know it all, but you seem to think you do. Who knows if they will both even be in the race? I personally think that Tiz Wonderful is as good as the two of them, but there's the fun, we'll see. See my problem with you is the you think you are the end all be all about everything involving horse racing. I'm sure I am not the only one who thinks as such. I am very confident in myself, and I can admit when I'm wrong, something people who are confident an dcomfortable with themselves will do. Hint, Hint. I don't need to prove myself to anyone on here, yet you seem to be the one who is always trying to prove your worth. Why is that?

If you only knew why I posted here ...It isn't because "I" want to learn anything, I can assure you of that..

And hey, I was just giving you a shot to put your money where your mouth was.....for all I know, you are now jumping on CQ's bandwagon - just like the rest of the post-race analyzers.....

[quote=Cunningham Racing]If you only knew why I posted here ...It isn't because "I" want to learn anything, I can assure you of that..

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and modest too.....

[ArlJim78]

[quote=Danzig2]

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

If you only knew why I posted here ...It isn't because "I" want to learn anything, I can assure you of that..

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and modest too.....

yes, he's knowledgeable AND oh so humble. we are truly blessed that he deigns to share his insights here.

[quote=Danzig2]

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

If you only knew why I posted here ...It isn't because "I" want to learn anything, I can assure you of that..

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and modest too.....

I don't see a modesty issue with that quote....If you only understood, my boy

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I personally don't care why you post here, so again, no need to prove yourself to anyone. It's about being a stand up person. When you make claims for months before, and are wrong, admit it. Because we know you would be gloating, had Scat won. Again, YOU are the post race analyzer. You did it after the Hopeful remember. And we'll all here you do it today on ATRAB. Can't wait for you to "analyze" the Hopeful.

And expect a high caller volume today after he does!!! I'm sure that many will wanna call in and express their thoughts as well.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I personally don't care why you post here, so again, no need to prove yourself to anyone. It's about being a stand up person. When you make claims for months before, and are wrong, admit it. Because we know you would be gloating, had Scat won. Again, YOU are the post race analyzer. You did it after the Hopeful remember. And we'll all hear you do it today on ATRAB. Can't wait for you to "analyze" the Hopeful.

Actually, you won't hear me, but thats another story