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Old 03-22-2009, 06:30 PM
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The good news for Siena is they are really well coached, tough team. The bad news is their coach may be coaching elsewhere soon.
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Old 03-22-2009, 06:46 PM
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3 Hardwood HIckory mcmailclerk 37 of 48 51 179
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The good news for Siena is they are really well coached, tough team. The bad news is their coach may be coaching elsewhere soon.
The best news is that Kenny Hasbrouck is finally graduating. Him coming back from injury cost them the game, they are so much better with Jackson in there. The whole lineup that came back and took the lead will be back next year, should be a fun year. If McCaffrey is smart he'll stick around one more year. He'd go to Notre Dame or Villanova in a heartbeat, not sure how many other jobs he'd be interested in.
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Old 03-22-2009, 06:50 PM
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1 Chuck c s 40 of 48 55 183

2 Hyde's Horses dmhyde11 40 of 48 54 182

3 Soonerfans picks OUBoomerSooner 39 of 48 53 181

4 vanfranco vanfranco88 37 of 48 52 180
4 ksmittysmit ksmittysmit 38 of 48 52 180
4 Ogygian Ken S 39 of 48 52 180
4 TROUTLINE tuort1 39 of 48 52 172

8 Recruited by So. Cal. hatfield0 37 of 48 51 179
8 skinnykid Kirk White 38 of 48 51 179
8 clayfromla cfossett1996 37 of 48 51 179
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Old 03-22-2009, 07:32 PM
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1 Chuck c s 40 of 48 55 183

2 Hyde's Horses dmhyde11 40 of 48 54 182

3 Soonerfans picks OUBoomerSooner 39 of 48 53 181

4 vanfranco vanfranco88 37 of 48 52 180
4 ksmittysmit ksmittysmit 38 of 48 52 180
4 Ogygian Ken S 39 of 48 52 180
4 TROUTLINE tuort1 39 of 48 52 172

8 Recruited by So. Cal. hatfield0 37 of 48 51 179
8 skinnykid Kirk White 38 of 48 51 179
8 clayfromla cfossett1996 37 of 48 51 179
do you know any of these people?
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Old 03-23-2009, 07:10 AM
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do you know any of these people?
I know you.. Clay from LA is a semi-regular caller. Skinny Kid is a DTer. The others are listeners I don't know yet!
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Old 03-22-2009, 07:31 PM
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The best news is that Kenny Hasbrouck is finally graduating. Him coming back from injury cost them the game, they are so much better with Jackson in there. The whole lineup that came back and took the lead will be back next year, should be a fun year. If McCaffrey is smart he'll stick around one more year. He'd go to Notre Dame or Villanova in a heartbeat, not sure how many other jobs he'd be interested in.
As an alum I would love AZ to go after him. His players play very hard for him.
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Old 03-22-2009, 07:33 PM
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The best news is that Kenny Hasbrouck is finally graduating. Him coming back from injury cost them the game, they are so much better with Jackson in there. The whole lineup that came back and took the lead will be back next year, should be a fun year. If McCaffrey is smart he'll stick around one more year. He'd go to Notre Dame or Villanova in a heartbeat, not sure how many other jobs he'd be interested in.
Oh yeah KY is looking for a coach...
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Old 03-23-2009, 03:40 PM
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Oh yeah KY is looking for a coach...
He has no recruiting experience in KY or AZ so as good of a coach as he is I'm not sure how good of a fit as he'd be at either of those schools. Next year should be Siena's peak year with Ubiles, Franklin, and Moore as seniors and Rossiter and Jackson as juniors. So he'd be smart to stick around one more year to maximize his value if he just wants a big payday. Or he can just stick around until Wright leaves Villanova or Notre Dame fires Brey and go for one of his dream jobs being a Philly guy who was an assistant at Notre Dame (and his wife played at Notre Dame). He's making $400k this year which is pretty nice for a midmajor gig. Siena averaged 7,500 in attendance this year so could probably justify a raise to $500k. So he won't be as desperate to get out and give up the job security as some might be.
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Old 03-23-2009, 06:17 PM
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He has no recruiting experience in KY or AZ so as good of a coach as he is I'm not sure how good of a fit as he'd be at either of those schools. Next year should be Siena's peak year with Ubiles, Franklin, and Moore as seniors and Rossiter and Jackson as juniors. So he'd be smart to stick around one more year to maximize his value if he just wants a big payday. Or he can just stick around until Wright leaves Villanova or Notre Dame fires Brey and go for one of his dream jobs being a Philly guy who was an assistant at Notre Dame (and his wife played at Notre Dame). He's making $400k this year which is pretty nice for a midmajor gig. Siena averaged 7,500 in attendance this year so could probably justify a raise to $500k. So he won't be as desperate to get out and give up the job security as some might be.
Those schools dont recruit their states, they are national recruiters. He could make $3 million a year at those schools. He'd go if offered. AZ is supposedly obsessed with Tubby Smith.
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Old 03-24-2009, 09:54 PM
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Those schools dont recruit their states, they are national recruiters. He could make $3 million a year at those schools. He'd go if offered. AZ is supposedly obsessed with Tubby Smith.
I don't buy that anymore, Kentucky basketball has become Notre Dame football. Both think they are still elite programs but when it comes down to it Lexington, KY and South Bend, IN are not desirable places for African-Americans unless they have elite coaches. McCaffrey is not an elite coach at this point and there is no way he could recruit top talent to Kentucky. Now if Jay Wright were dumb enough to take the thankless job in Kentucky and leave his job security at Villanova then it would open the door for McCaffrey to jump ship to Villanova. No way in a million years though that McCaffrey to Kentucky makes sense for either side.
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Old 03-24-2009, 10:26 PM
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I don't buy that anymore, Kentucky basketball has become Notre Dame football. Both think they are still elite programs but when it comes down to it Lexington, KY and South Bend, IN are not desirable places for African-Americans unless they have elite coaches. McCaffrey is not an elite coach at this point and there is no way he could recruit top talent to Kentucky. Now if Jay Wright were dumb enough to take the thankless job in Kentucky and leave his job security at Villanova then it would open the door for McCaffrey to jump ship to Villanova. No way in a million years though that McCaffrey to Kentucky makes sense for either side.
I dont understand your argument. So McCafferty wont be able to recruit at KY but could at Villanova? I have no idea why you would think that Lexington, KY would not be desirable for an Afro-American? South Bend is not a real factor in ND's recruiting, academic standards are.

KY is a very attractive program for recruits and coaches. They are building a new arena, the facilities are beyond first class, they play in a power conference, they are a basketball school with lots of tradition, and they are like gods here. For a coach the challenge is unique. First of all you will get intense media scruitny and a sick fan base. If you dont do well then you will be gone. But if you win you are the king of the state. There is nowhere that a coach is more revered than here. Nowhere. Not to mention that you have no NBA,NFL or MLB teams to share the spotlight with. And the most important factor for many is that you will make WAY more money than you will anywhere else. Win the nat'l title and people will just send you money. It is scary like a cult.

Personally I am not a fan but until you live here you cant understand just how big KY basketball is.

McCafferty is a really good coach. He would be the best coach they have had since Pitino. Winning is all that matters and I have a hard time believing he wouldn't win.

All that being said I'm sure they will go for the big name.
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I don't buy that anymore, Kentucky basketball has become Notre Dame football. Both think they are still elite programs but when it comes down to it Lexington, KY and South Bend, IN are not desirable places for African-Americans unless they have elite coaches. McCaffrey is not an elite coach at this point and there is no way he could recruit top talent to Kentucky. Now if Jay Wright were dumb enough to take the thankless job in Kentucky and leave his job security at Villanova then it would open the door for McCaffrey to jump ship to Villanova. No way in a million years though that McCaffrey to Kentucky makes sense for either side.
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I don't buy that anymore, Kentucky basketball has become Notre Dame football. Both think they are still elite programs but when it comes down to it Lexington, KY and South Bend, IN are not desirable places for African-Americans unless they have elite coaches. McCaffrey is not an elite coach at this point and there is no way he could recruit top talent to Kentucky. Now if Jay Wright were dumb enough to take the thankless job in Kentucky and leave his job security at Villanova then it would open the door for McCaffrey to jump ship to Villanova. No way in a million years though that McCaffrey to Kentucky makes sense for either side.
I think this is correct. Even with elite coaches, it's still difficult. African-American players don't have those rural schools on their radars like they used to. Lexington may be a major city to a lot of people but it's not considerd major to most. A lot of them have that same attitude that OJ Mayo had which was to go to a major center to maximize their potential. Also with Kentucky not even making the tournament and the rest of the conference really being down, that's going to make things even harder.
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He has no recruiting experience in KY or AZ so as good of a coach as he is I'm not sure how good of a fit as he'd be at either of those schools. Next year should be Siena's peak year with Ubiles, Franklin, and Moore as seniors and Rossiter and Jackson as juniors. So he'd be smart to stick around one more year to maximize his value if he just wants a big payday. Or he can just stick around until Wright leaves Villanova or Notre Dame fires Brey and go for one of his dream jobs being a Philly guy who was an assistant at Notre Dame (and his wife played at Notre Dame). He's making $400k this year which is pretty nice for a midmajor gig. Siena averaged 7,500 in attendance this year so could probably justify a raise to $500k. So he won't be as desperate to get out and give up the job security as some might be.
Dude, coach Siena or coach UK or another big school. I feel your pain, SIU had three coaches in three years because of the comediness but this guy is gonna be on everyones radar.
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Just reading some stuff from the U of A basketball website...

I was suprised to see that the U of A has done very well this year in neutral court games... 5-1 including the two tourney games. They were 2-9 in true road games and 14-2 at home. Thank goodness the tourney games are always at neutral venue's and not away games!!

Also, "UPHILL BATTLE: Arizona faces No. 1 seed Louisville in Friday's Midwest Regional semifinal. Since seeding was introduced in 1985, Arizona has a 6-5 record against a No. 1 seed. Interestingly, the Wildcats have more wins against the top seed than it does against any other seed in the tournament. Those six wins are more than it has against seeds 2-4 combined (5). The last time UA faced a No. 1 seed was March 19, 2006, in an 82-78 loss to Villanova in the Minneapolis Region's second round."


I realize that stat means nothing come gametime against Louisville, but its good to know that the Cats will not be intimidated by Louisville on Friday.

Watching Nic Wise, Chase Budinger and Jordan Hill is as good as it gets. Nic Wise is just explosive, a great college point gaurd and awesome shooter. Jordan Hill is just a BEAST... he will be a helluva NBA player IMO... and Chase is just an all around very good basketball player.

I'm not expecting U of A to beat the #1 team in the country... but it certainally wouldnt surprise me and I'd LOVE to see it happen, even if it screws up my bracket!

Go Cats!!
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I dont like to predict games, because I'm very supersticious (sp?)

But I do think NOVA is going to destroy and expose Duke (and I'll love every second of it)... and I think Missouri will beat Memphis.
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Just reading some stuff from the U of A basketball website...

I was suprised to see that the U of A has done very well this year in neutral court games... 5-1 including the two tourney games. They were 2-9 in true road games and 14-2 at home. Thank goodness the tourney games are always at neutral venue's and not away games!!
Uh, you do realize that their pre-tournament neutral court wins came against Santa Clara (RPI: 198) and Mississippi Valley State (RPI: 333), right? Those were the only neutral court games they played before the postseason. The game against Gonzaga doesn't count since it was in Phoenix.
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Just reading some stuff from the U of A basketball website...

I was suprised to see that the U of A has done very well this year in neutral court games... 5-1 including the two tourney games. They were 2-9 in true road games and 14-2 at home. Thank goodness the tourney games are always at neutral venue's and not away games!!

Also, "UPHILL BATTLE: Arizona faces No. 1 seed Louisville in Friday's Midwest Regional semifinal. Since seeding was introduced in 1985, Arizona has a 6-5 record against a No. 1 seed. Interestingly, the Wildcats have more wins against the top seed than it does against any other seed in the tournament. Those six wins are more than it has against seeds 2-4 combined (5). The last time UA faced a No. 1 seed was March 19, 2006, in an 82-78 loss to Villanova in the Minneapolis Region's second round."
I realize that stat means nothing come gametime against Louisville, but its good to know that the Cats will not be intimidated by Louisville on Friday.

Watching Nic Wise, Chase Budinger and Jordan Hill is as good as it gets. Nic Wise is just explosive, a great college point gaurd and awesome shooter. Jordan Hill is just a BEAST... he will be a helluva NBA player IMO... and Chase is just an all around very good basketball player.

I'm not expecting U of A to beat the #1 team in the country... but it certainally wouldnt surprise me and I'd LOVE to see it happen, even if it screws up my bracket!

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