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Old 03-19-2009, 07:54 PM
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No the horseman own the product they are selling. Why is this a hard concept? The traditional method of splitting the proceeds of a bet is 1/3 to the track, 1/3rd to the horseman and 1/3 to the state. Under the tracks ownership of ADW's the splits are scrambled with only the track benefiting to the detriment of the other parties.
Yes and that happened because the horseman and the state don't have competent leadership. It's not like ADW's are a brand new concept.

Because of this epic incompetence the horse player always gets hosed. We're f.ucking sick of it. Stop being a bunch of f.ucktards and get your s.hit together. Hire someone to lead you that isn't stuck in the 19th century.
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Old 03-19-2009, 08:16 PM
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Yes and that happened because the horseman and the state don't have competent leadership. It's not like ADW's are a brand new concept.

Because of this epic incompetence the horse player always gets hosed. We're f.ucking sick of it. Stop being a bunch of f.ucktards and get your s.hit together. Hire someone to lead you that isn't stuck in the 19th century.
When you deal with a disingenuous group like CDI who acts solely in its own interests and in a manner inconsistent with the overall health of the game it is hard to get shi t together. They want to squeeze more out of the shrinking dollars instead of trying to work together with horseman AND horseplayers in developing new sources of revenue via realistic new bets and competitive racing. The culture of CDI is the same as the greedy schmucks on Wall Street that everyone goes nuts about. They are mortgaging the future of horseracing on them getting alternate sources of gaming. There is no other reason that they have developed the scorched earth strategy that they are currently employing. While I believe that slots are necessary for a state like KY to compete on an equal playing field with the surrounding states, it is scary to think that these people would sell the game down the river if they could squeeze one cent more out of it. The racing product at CD was seriously off last year and the early signs out already are that not much will change this year as outfits have already turned in stalls to go to other locations. IN Downs is slowly adding the casino money to purses or the decline would be even more dramatic. While it would seem like a good thing for a trainer or owner in the short term, it is a trend that will seemingly continue which will be bad in the longer term.
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Old 03-19-2009, 08:28 PM
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When you deal with a disingenuous group like CDI who acts solely in its own interests and in a manner inconsistent with the overall health of the game it is hard to get shi t together. They want to squeeze more out of the shrinking dollars instead of trying to work together with horseman AND horseplayers in developing new sources of revenue via realistic new bets and competitive racing. The culture of CDI is the same as the greedy schmucks on Wall Street that everyone goes nuts about. They are mortgaging the future of horseracing on them getting alternate sources of gaming. There is no other reason that they have developed the scorched earth strategy that they are currently employing. While I believe that slots are necessary for a state like KY to compete on an equal playing field with the surrounding states, it is scary to think that these people would sell the game down the river if they could squeeze one cent more out of it. The racing product at CD was seriously off last year and the early signs out already are that not much will change this year as outfits have already turned in stalls to go to other locations. IN Downs is slowly adding the casino money to purses or the decline would be even more dramatic. While it would seem like a good thing for a trainer or owner in the short term, it is a trend that will seemingly continue which will be bad in the longer term.
I'd much rather see the federal government ban slots and table gaming in all states except Jersey and Nevada. Ban the reservations too.

It's just sickening to think that Indiana Downs is going to have $35,000 state bred races. It's not right and it needs to be stopped.
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Old 03-19-2009, 08:31 PM
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I'd much rather see the federal government ban slots and table gaming in all states except Jersey and Nevada. Ban the reservations too.

It's just sickening to think that Indiana Downs is going to have $35,000 state bred races. It's not right and it needs to be stopped.
Not that it is a bad idea but it is far too late for that
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Old 03-19-2009, 08:34 PM
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Not that it is a bad idea but it is far too late for that
True. It's only going to get worse. Churchill will put in a synthetic surface soon. They're already sucking Great Britain's dick with that retarded prep race.
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Old 03-19-2009, 08:36 PM
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True. It's only going to get worse. Churchill will put in a synthetic surface soon. They're already sucking Great Britain's dick with that retarded prep race.
if it didnt cost so much they would already have done it.
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Old 03-19-2009, 08:39 PM
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if it didnt cost so much they would already have done it.
They'll end up doing it.
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Old 03-19-2009, 08:39 PM
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if it didnt cost so much they would already have done it.
They're hoping the 40 or so track regulars that have intermediate computer skills will go the adw/on-track route to help pay for the new surface.

Hopefully they go with pro-ride. I prefer the surface to look like a river of dingleberries, not sand.
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