Kentucky Derby Challenge Stakes

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't see it as necessarily being a bad thing. look at the 20th horse entered the last however many years-how many of them ended up making any kind of a splash? if this works in churchills favor and generates more interest-and maybe better horses from overseas- i see nothing wrong with it.

Not that I feel much sympathy for horses that get shut out when they know they need earnings to get in but just last year #20 wound up running third.

[slotdirt]

Wasn't Don't Get Mad around 20th a couple years back and he ran at least decently well.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Wasn't Don't Get Mad around 20th a couple years back and he ran at least decently well.

I think only 20 wanted to enter that year which is how Spanish Chestnut and Going Wild got in.

Don't Get Mad was notable in that he ran in the Derby Trial the week before.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Not that I feel much sympathy for horses that get shut out when they know they need earnings to get in but just last year #20 wound up running third.

and had he not gotten in, someone else would have finished third. i just don't think the race will feel the lack if the horse on the bubble ends up out and a horse from england runs in his place-and that's not even a given. just because a horse earns his way in, doesn't mean his connections will relish the thought of shipping and running on dirt. but who knows?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Danzig

and had he not gotten in, someone else would have finished third. i just don't think the race will feel the lack if the horse on the bubble ends up out and a horse from england runs in his place-and that's not even a given. just because a horse earns his way in, doesn't mean his connections will relish the thought of shipping and running on dirt. but who knows?

I just don't see how winning an allowance race on synthetics in England is really earning your way in.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I just don't see how winning an allowance race on synthetics in England is really earning your way in.

but because it's a win and you're in, he's in. if a horse wins the delta jackpot, he's earned his way in-but doesn't mean that horse is any more deserving than the winner of the england race. but, those are the rules.

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I just don't see how winning an allowance race on synthetics in England is really earning your way in.

you mean dirt?

Originally Posted by bloodhorse

Jibboom, a graded stakes winner on dirt and turf for Khalid Abdullah’s Juddmonte Farms, has been retired from racing because of a suspensory injury.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

you mean dirt?

the racetrack there is a synthetic surface. and what does jibboom have to do with it?

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by Danzig

the racetrack there is a synthetic surface. and what does jibboom have to do with it?

Jibboom ran once on dirt in her life and ran a one-paced sixth.
Bloodhorse writes her up as a Graded Stakes winner on dirt.
It's also fun to say or type her name.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

Jibboom ran once on dirt in her life and ran a one-paced sixth.
Bloodhorse writes her up as a Graded Stakes winner on dirt.
It's also fun to say or type her name.

oh, i see. they're saying a win on synthetic is a 'dirt' win. they need to re-write it as a main track win, it most certainly is NOT a dirt win.