Brother Derek is a fraud...

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by oracle80

LOL!!!
That trainer is certainly not the first guy to say something like that. And he won't be the last.
Steve knows DAMN well from our conversations off the board that there a few guys who I'm REALLY bashing!!!! Guys who make the guy I have bashed who is Steve's friend look like ****ing Ben or Jimmy jones!!!
I'm consistent in who I bash, perhaps you haven't read me long enough to know that. When I see guys who have a barn full of very expensive horses who consistently win very few or no races, they are gonna draw my wrath.
Ask Steve about our conversation about a certain guy named after a city in Texas.

that trainer is the same guy you are looking to send your new potential acquisition to BTW

Originally Posted by paisjpq

that trainer is the same guy you are looking to send your new potential acquisition to BTW

SHHHH, I already knew that(I know how he talks). And he's not my client. He's an often times partner's client. And hes also a perfectionist. If he won 10 of 11 races he'd bitch about the one he lost to anyone who would listen.
Thats what makes him so good, he hates losing and doesnt accept it well. And one of my clients wants that horse now badly, and it looks like thats where he will go if the accept the offer. Not another word about that on here please.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by oracle80

SHHHH, I already knew that(I know how he talks). And he's not my client. He's an often times partner's client. And hes also a perfectionist. If he won 10 of 11 races he'd bitch about the one he lost to anyone who would listen.
Thats what makes him so good, he hates losing and doesnt accept it well. And one of my clients wants that horse now badly, and it looks like thats where he will go if the accept the offer. Not another word about that on here please.

he's pretty funny that way actually...focus on the bad only that way you never look happy...
good for you if you get it done.

Originally Posted by paisjpq

he's pretty funny that way actually...focus on the bad only that way you never look happy...
good for you if you get it done.

My main man grabbed me yesterday(he actually graced us with his presence yesterday) and I told him about the horse and he just said go!
He also hates losing. hes like the guy you are referring to, hates losing, and gets sick to his stomach when he does.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by oracle80

My main man grabbed me yesterday(he actually graced us with his presence yesterday) and I told him about the horse and he just said go!
He also hates losing. hes like the guy you are referring to, hates losing, and gets sick to his stomach when he does.

main man? the one with no cell service?

[Nostradamus]

Oracle, you are very knowledgable, maybe more than anyone else here, but the personal attacks on Cunningham and his father are uncalled for. Saying a horse is a fraud (overrated) is not an attack. It is just saying the horse is not what people say he is. There are tons of horses like this. My brother has called Sunriver a fraud all year, and he likes the owners. That doesn't mean it is personal.

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

Oracle, you are very knowledgable, maybe more than anyone else here, but the personal attacks on Cunningham and his father are uncalled for. Saying a horse is a fraud (overrated) is not an attack. It is just saying the horse is not what people say he is. There are tons of horses like this. My brother has called Sunriver a fraud all year, and he likes the owners. That doesn't mean it is personal.

Nor was my attack against Joel. And I'm not attacking his father in any way shape or form. he made what i felt was a moronic statement, I've treated my own friend Gander the same way on here. My attack was not personal, he did try to get personal then bashing a horse hes knows I bought. Are you that stupid Nostra to miss that?
read what others wrote on the thread, You act as if I was the only one picking on him. Others abused him as well. WHy not post something to them?

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

Oracle, you are very knowledgable, maybe more than anyone else here, but the personal attacks on Cunningham and his father are uncalled for. Saying a horse is a fraud (overrated) is not an attack. It is just saying the horse is not what people say he is. There are tons of horses like this. My brother has called Sunriver a fraud all year, and he likes the owners. That doesn't mean it is personal.

Exactly......................

[pdrift1]

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

Oracle, you are very knowledgable, maybe more than anyone else here, but the personal attacks on Cunningham and his father are uncalled for. Saying a horse is a fraud (overrated) is not an attack. It is just saying the horse is not what people say he is. There are tons of horses like this. My brother has called Sunriver a fraud all year, and he likes the owners. That doesn't mean it is personal.

i stand by what i said earlier in this thread ,his derby run with the **** post and horrible trip in the derby and still to place like he did shows a hell of alot . lets think if he had a better post . horrible trip in preak again. like oracle said-injurymaybe-or just plain worn out from the preps and tc-or rusty- but to use fraud after one race and even then after all his stake wins is crap. so all his wins were a fluke and should have lost and his good run in the derby was a fluke because the horse is not what people say he is? well what the heck is he allowance material, claimer? nobody out here is saying he's a great or super horse but a fraud. i know who the fraud is !!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by paisjpq

main man? the one with no cell service?

No Beth, the guy who took me out earlier in the meet and got me alcohol poisoning for two days.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by oracle80

No Beth, the guy who took me out earlier in the meet and got me alcohol poisoning for two days.

that was my second guess---

Originally Posted by oracle80

SHHHH, I already knew that(I know how he talks). And he's not my client. He's an often times partner's client. And hes also a perfectionist. If he won 10 of 11 races he'd bitch about the one he lost to anyone who would listen.
Thats what makes him so good, he hates losing and doesnt accept it well. And one of my clients wants that horse now badly, and it looks like thats where he will go if the accept the offer. Not another word about that on here please.

I think everyone knew that after that quote...that is Classic commentary from that trainer