3/7 (AQU): Gotham S. (Gr. III); Toboggan H. (Gr. III)

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I have spent more time on this thread than it's worth. Time for a beer.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Damn, not the eye roll.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Damn, not the eye roll.

I asked you a question and you couldn't answer it, so now this thread isn't worth your time. I think that deserves some rolling eyes. But I digress.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I asked you a question and you couldn't answer it, so now this thread isn't worth your time. I think that deserves some rolling eyes. But I digress.

I didn't even see your question, my bad.

Again, why does it legitimize POTN's ability? IWR looks to be two different horses on the two surfaces. POTN beat the synthetic IWR, not the dirt one. It's like elevating Red Rocks because Curlin won the Woodward after losing to him in the Man O' War.

First off, I'm not elevating Red Rocks at all. He's not the same horse anymore.

And you're right, POTN beat the synthetic IWR. But the synthetic IWR was good enough to only lose to POTN by a... nose. Now we see the dirt IWR is pretty good, so if POTN were to handle dirt, then well based upon this comparative handicapping, it makes for another element of discussion. Which is all I was doing. Not proclaiming POTN as the Derby winner by any stretch. The wording in my original post was poor, and cause people to freak out with their keyboards a bit. My bad.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I didn't even see your question, my bad.



First off, I'm not elevating Red Rocks at all. He's not the same horse anymore.

And you're right, POTN beat the synthetic IWR. But the synthetic IWR was good enough to only lose to POTN by a... nose. Now we see the dirt IWR is pretty good, so if POTN were to handle dirt, then well based upon this comparative handicapping, it makes for another element of discussion. Which is all I was doing. Not proclaiming POTN as the Derby winner by any stretch. The wording in my original post was poor, and cause people to freak out with their keyboards a bit. My bad.

Too much Quarter horse exposure

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Too much Quarter horse exposure

There was a race today with five or six horses with the name "Dash" or "Cash" in their name. That'll make anyone nuts.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

First off, I'm not elevating Red Rocks at all. He's not the same horse anymore.

And you're right, POTN beat the synthetic IWR. But the synthetic IWR was good enough to only lose to POTN by a... nose. Now we see the dirt IWR is pretty good, so if POTN were to handle dirt, then well based upon this comparative handicapping, it makes for another element of discussion. Which is all I was doing. Not proclaiming POTN as the Derby winner by any stretch. The wording in my original post was poor, and cause people to freak out with their keyboards a bit. My bad.

Nobody's freaking out, just trying to point out that simply because I Want Revenge lost by a nose to Pioneerof the Nile, then freaked on dirt, that has little to no correlation to Pioneerof the Nile's ability or what he would do on dirt if he 'handled it'. You're smart enough to understand the Red Rocks/Curlin comparison and that it has nothing to do with what Red Rocks is or isn't. You know the point I was trying to make.

[Cannon Shell]

Imperial Council while hampered by a slow pace, had a flawless rail trip, never had a straw in his path. His catching Mr Fantasy was more a reflection of Mr Fantasy's limitations than Imperial Councils strength. Haynesfield was terrible. This may have looked like a good field on paper but it sure doesnt look very goo outside the winner afterwards.

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

This may have looked like a good field on paper but it sure doesnt look very goo outside the winner afterwards.

Agreed, and while the winner ran a pretty good race, I don't see him as a triple crown horse, which is ultimately what these 3yo preps ask.

[Pedigree Ann]

Since when has the inner track at Aqueduct been comparable to a real dirt track? If you handicap that way, you'll lose a lot of $.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Since when has the inner track at Aqueduct been comparable to a real dirt track? If you handicap that way, you'll lose a lot of $.

Are you playing " can you top this " for inane posts?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Since when has the inner track at Aqueduct been comparable to a real dirt track? If you handicap that way, you'll lose a lot of $.

What are you talking about?

NT

[Bobby Fischer]

If you watched today's races, consider their breeding , and look at their strides in the head-on, Nicanor actually looks like he has a better chance to run a decent 10furlongs in May than Imperial Council.



seriously